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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

5205.0. "automatic paging function..." by TOSKI::HAYES () Tue Jun 15 1993 16:43

	Hello,

	I am looking for a paging system
        (beeper or numeric paging) including a paging table editor
	to add/delete entries from the paging tables, 
        send those, receive acknowledgement...

        There must be a 3rd party paging system, which
    	we could integrate via a schell script to MCC/TeMIP
        and maybe event collector to get acknowledgement.
    
       	But, I do not know where to search for that type of package.
 
	I searched in the MCC/TeMIP notesfiles...did not find
	an entry about paging.

	Could someone point me to a more adequate notesfile
	or information channel for this ? or give me the
	name of a 3rd party company/package ?


		Thanks for any help

			Catherine
	

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5205.1DECalert?TOOK::MINTZErik MintzTue Jun 15 1993 17:144
Last I knew, there was a DEC product called "DECalert" or something
like that.  Perhaps someone else has a better pointer.

-- Erik
5205.2The ERICSONS pager (may be a prob with export to US)HERON::PATEL_ALoLo-AQIC-I82Q-B4IP, - LMFWed Jun 16 1993 03:449
    Hi Catherine -- hope the move has gone well
    
    The ERICSON pager system (this is a facility paging system not
    terestrial) was integrated into decmcc by ERICSON, you may car to
    conntact Luc TIMMERMANS (heron::) for more details.
    
    This system is a page and message type ....
    
    be in touch soon Amrit
5205.3Thanks...TOSKI::HAYESWed Jun 16 1993 12:0819
    
    
    	Re : .1
        Thanks Erik, I found what I needed in the DECalert notesfile
    	COLRDO::DECALERT   
    
    
    	Hi Amrit,
    
    	The move went well !
    
    	Thanks for your reply too, but the is an RFP for Alcatel,
        and I doubt they would endorse one of their largest competitor's
        product...
    
    		Bye
    
    
    			Catherine
5205.4They are both trivial to connect toRACER::daveAhh, but fortunately, I have the key to escape reality.Wed Jun 16 1993 15:5211
Well, having hooked up to both paging systems (DECalert and Ericson's)
It is not really any issue.  The "work" for E's system was the addition of
a single VPAGE call in the DCL command procedure.  BTW, VMS only.....

Same goes for DECalert, One line call, do it from a VAX/VMS system.

I cant imagine a paging system that would be more difficult to interface to,
so the real issue is the user interface into setting up and controlling the
tables you want to define.  
Ericson had none, DECalert allows you to name page groups and add/remove
people from the lists.
5205.5my 2 cents on DECalertCSOADM::ROTHLight fuse and retire quicklyWed Jun 16 1993 18:3427
DECalert has a character limitation (64?) of how much text you can pass
to it via its system-to-system DCL level interface.

Also... I suggested a change to DECalert that, as far as I know, has
yet to be made- that is some sense about how many times to page someone.

  Example: Network link goes down/up 10 times, for a total of 20 page
  requests. If you send 20 page requests to DECalert, then it will beep
  your pager *20 times* every 'n' minutes (pager is smoking and melting
  on your belt!!). You then must dial into DECalrt and listen (i.e.  wade
  through) the 20 pages (via your touchtone pad) to get it to stop
  beeping you.

I suggested in their notesfile that DECalert only dial your pager once
even if 20 pages were outstanding and the gist of the reply was that
*you* would have to externally maintain the logic to prevent 20 pages
from occuring.

I no longer use DECalert for paging (or anything else).

DECalert is A WHOLE LOT MORE than a paging system... somthing like
buying a car just to get a seat to sit in. Be sure to hold on to your
seat when you ask the price of it. No, they don't offer internal
organizations discounts either. You get to pay full customer price for
it.

Lee
5205.6So, what do we recommend...TOSKI::HAYESThu Jun 17 1993 12:0713
    
    	
    	Not very encouraging...
                                 
    	So what do you use for paging, has someone heard of another
        third party paging system ?
    
           Thanks
    
    
    		Catherine