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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

5173.0. "MANAGE/ENTER fails after RSM 2.4 install" by KERNEL::TRAYLER () Wed Jun 09 1993 13:11

VMS 5.5-2 RSM 2.4 DecMCC 1.2.3

A customer installed RSM 2.4 onto a system that had dec mcc 1.2.3 on already.
This results in the following error when he tried to start the mcc interface

$manage/enter
The MCC product is not installed on your system.
Please contact your Digitial Sales Representative for more information.

The dec mcc release notes specify a work around for this problem.  They suggest
that you reinstall the command verb into the DCLTABLES by using the
MCC_COMMANDS.CLD file.  However this doesn't completely fix the problem  since 
RSM 2.4 replaces the images mcc_main and mcc_dap_main. 

If these images are replaced from the dec mcc kit the manage/enter command 
will work again.

I believe that it is recommended to install RSM before MCC but why does RSM
provide a version of mcc_main and mcc_dap_main? I imagine that if installed the
otherway round all would be ok because the mcc_commands.cld includes all the
definitions for the rsm qualifiers of manage aswell. 

The RSM v2.4 release notes section 5.5 say that a Decmcc v1.2 interoperability
problem has been fixed. It says "Installation of version 2.3 server over decmcc
1.2 removed certain *rarely* used command qualifiers." * - my emphasis

It seems that the v2.4 server removes the more regularly used qualifiers :-)
:-)

Kevin Trayler
UK CSC 

{cross posted in the MCC and RSM Notes conferences}
       
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5173.1Yes, it looks like images have been overwritten:TEMTY::L_GROSSMANTue Jun 15 1993 10:027
the RSM should be checking the Image ident to see if it should
place the images on the system.  Or more simply, if the images
are on the system, do not ever overwrite them.  They are either
the small images that display text or actuall DECmcc images.


						Larry G.
5173.2RTFMFRAIS::ORCHIS::MAASSInformation, that's all I need...Fri Jun 18 1993 19:0414
Hi,

The problem of getting problems when installing RSM over DECmcc is mentioned in
the DECmcc release notes. They should (as to my knowledge) provide a solution.

Consider configuration -> Read documentation -> Install product -> Enjoy (Some-
times :-).


Greetings,



Josch
5173.3RTFM but the FM was wrong!KERNEL::TRAYLERWed Jun 23 1993 10:1129
    
    The Release notes for Mcc 1.2.3 provide a workaround that redefines the
    command verb for the manage command.  This does not fix the problem
    since the rsm v2.4 cld includes all the mcc qualifiers anyway.
    
    The problem is caused by a dummy image being put in place on the system
    that overwrites mcc images. RSM should check if mcc is installed before
    overwriting those images but the kitinstal doesn't.
    
    The images affected are...
    
    
    mcc_main.exe
    mcc_dap_main.exe
    mcc_hfb_main.exe
    mcc_msl_main.exe
    mcc_msl_symbol.exe
    mcc_msl_symbol_parse.exe
    mcc_dap_browser.exe
    mcc_tcpip_mtu.exe
    
    It is easily fixed by either restoring those files affected from backup
    or installation kit. If the option not to purge files replaced by this
    installation is taken then the originals should still be there.
    
    
    Kevin Trayler