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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

5097.0. "SCRIPT AM included in which packages" by MQOSWS::F_MONETTE (Montreal Sales Support) Thu May 20 1993 10:53

I need to know if I can buy the SCRIPT AM alone and also
it is part of which packages? 

I know that the collector Am comes with the notification
packages . What about the SCRIPT AM . I hope that I don't
have to buy POlYCENTER NETWORK MANAGER 200 to get the
SCRIPT AM. It would be nice if it is included with  the 
POLYCENTER FRAMEWORK.


Any help

Regards,

Francois
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5097.1SCRIPT AM is part of POLYCENTER Framework.MOLAR::MOLAR::BRIENENNetwork Management Applications!Thu May 20 1993 11:230
5097.2Is it part of Framework?OSLACT::BJORNBj�rn Olav HaugomTue Jun 29 1993 11:266
Are you sure it's included in the Framework?

I can't see from the Networking Catalogue Spring Summer'93 that it's included.
On Page 70 it's mentioned as being part of POLYCENTER NETWORK MANAGER 200.

Bj�rn Olav Haugom
5097.3It's not mentioned in the SPDOSLACT::BJORNBj�rn Olav HaugomWed Jun 30 1993 06:554
In the POLYCENTER Framework SPD it's not mentioned that SCRIPT AM is part of the
product. In the POLYCENTER NETWORK MANAGER 200 it is.

Bj�rn Olav
5097.4You're both right -- PNM200 has itTOOK::CAREYWed Jun 30 1993 09:1627
    
    The POLYCENTER NETWORK MANAGER 200 corresponds roughly to the old
    DECmcc Director kit.  I'm going to cross-check this with our business
    people because I may be confused between what we call our products and
    what we produce.
    
    While I work to produce the POLYCENTER Framework, I believe that what
    we ship as the minimum Developer's Framework is two things:
    
    	- POLYCENTER Framework Developer's Kit, and
    	- POLYCENTER NETWORK MANAGER 200
    
    The first is the DECmcc toolkit, the second is the minimum DECmcc
    Director.  Internally, the SCRIPT AM is considered part of our
    Framework because it is an integral building block of DECmcc and a very
    flexible extensibility tool.  Externally, you see it as part of the
    PNM200 product.
    
    So I think that both answers are correct from different perspectives:
    the SCRIPT AM is part of PNM200 and PNM400, and is internally
    considered a "framework" component because it is intrinsically an
    extensibility tool.
    
    Sorry for the confusion.
    
    
    
5097.5It's in the MCCDIR013 savesetsOSLACT::BJORNBj�rn Olav HaugomThu Jul 01 1993 07:0739
>    The POLYCENTER NETWORK MANAGER 200 corresponds roughly to the old
>    DECmcc Director kit.  I'm going to cross-check this with our business
>    people because I may be confused between what we call our products and
>    what we produce.

That's NOT right. The POLYCENTER NETWORK MANAGER 200 corresponds to DECmcc BMS,
NOT the DECmcc Director. See the SPD's.

>    
>    While I work to produce the POLYCENTER Framework, I believe that what
>    we ship as the minimum Developer's Framework is two things:
>    
>        - POLYCENTER Framework Developer's Kit, and
>        - POLYCENTER NETWORK MANAGER 200
>    
>    The first is the DECmcc toolkit, the second is the minimum DECmcc
>    Director.  

Wrong! The old DECmcc Director is called POLYCENTER Framework in the SPD.

>    Externally, you see it as part of the PNM200 product.

Right, it's documented in the SPD for the PNM 200 product, but NOT in the PF.

>    
>    So I think that both answers are correct from different perspectives:
>    the SCRIPT AM is part of PNM200 and PNM400, and is internally
>    considered a "framework" component because it is intrinsically an
>    extensibility tool.
>    
>    Sorry for the confusion.

You could get more confused after this, but NOW I've checked the savsets on the
May CD, and in the MCCDIR013.% savesets you'll find SCRIPT_AM.EXE, so you
definitely get it in the POLYCENTER FRAMEWORK.

Bj�rn Olav


5097.6What is it we work on?TOOK::CAREYTue Jul 06 1993 10:0614
    
    My apologies Bjorn,
    
    Geesh, we have so many kits and change the names so often, I don't know
    WHAT I'm working on any more.
    
    Our business manager has crosschecked, and the SCRIPT AM should be part
    of the POLYCENTER Framework.  Since it missed the SPD we are getting it
    confirmed directly with the kit to make sure it is in.
    
    More news later.
    
    -Jim
    
5097.7Not there under UltrixMQOSWS::F_MONETTEMontreal Sales SupportTue Jul 06 1993 13:3123
I did some research and here the results:


- The SCRIPT AM is included with Polycenter Framework but
  only under VMS. I checked on the latest CD (June 93) and
  it's not there under ULTRIX ( strange !! same SPD)

- The COLLETOR AM is included witk POLYCENTER Framework 
  Notification Option but only under VMS. I checked under
  ULTRIX (version 1.2A - V1.3 not there yet) and found 
  that the dictionary has the Collector class registred
  but not the COLLECTOR AM image, sink and source code.


Is it a problem because this is causing me a lot of 
problems at the customer site when you think that a least
you should have it's in the SPD.

Any help !!!

regards,

Francois
5097.8When will this be corrected?OSLACT::BJORNBj�rn Olav HaugomTue Aug 17 1993 07:265
When will the SCRIPT AM and the COLLECTOR AM be part of the Ultrix distribution?
In what version will this be done, and what is the timeframe for this version?
Don't forget to change the SPD for VMS, too.

Bj�rn Olav