Conference azur::mcc

	You will always get partial registration for proxy agents. That is
	because the foreign devices do not have the internet address and
	internet name as identifiers. However, regardless of the partial
	registration, you should still be able to do all normal operations.
	Let me know if you see anything to the contrary.

	Unfortunately, due to other commitments, no one had the opportunity
	to take a closer look at QAR #174. I will try to reproduce the
	problem on my system.

	Rahul.

	Update:

	I tried registering a proxy agent and realised what problem people
	are facing. Proxy agents do not have all the identifiers, so they
	are partially registered, although all operations can be done 
	successfully on them. Unfortunately, every time you click into an
	entity, the iconic map brings up an informational message saying
	that the entity is partially registered and should be re-registered.
	This gives the impression that there is something wrong with the
	registered entity, although everything works fine in reality.

	The same problem is manifest when registering normal SNMP entities,
	when the SNMP AM tries to filter supported mibs based on responses
	from the agent. In some cases, the agent does not respond at all
	to mibs not supported by it, thereby causing a partial registration.

	Sometimes you may want to register an SNMP entity which may not have
	an entry in the BIND server. The SNMP AM cannot look up an internet
	name for this entity and you will get partial registration, since 
	all the identifiers are not present for the entity. In such cases
	you will be able to do all normal operations on the entity, but
	you will keep getting the annoying pop-up error messages.

	Partial registration is normal for SNMP entities. So ignore those
	iconic map messages (if you can).

	Rahul.

>        Partial registration is normal for SNMP entities. So ignore those
>        iconic map messages (if you can).

They are too annoying to be ignored. Remebmer, you have to click away
each of them. 

A possible solution could be to put the message in the message area of 
the map window instead of popping up a separate window. I think this 
could be implemented in a few minutes and would do the job.

BTW: POLYCENTER System Census Agent has the same problem. It gets 
partially registered as NODE...

*Robert

	I absolutely agree with you. This sort of behaviour wasn't present
	in V1.2 and , as far as I can remember, not even in T1.3.0 (the
	initial field test kit). This must have been added really late in 
	the game.

	Rahul.

    geez...  sometimes you just can't win!   I added the
    partially registered message because quite a few people
    were complaining that it would be nice to know.  
    
    Quite a few things do not work if the iconic map can't
    translate the entity name to its alternate identifier
    (e.g., alarming will fail).
    
    Now I am hearing that it is a "normal" for some entities to
    be partially registered!  
    
    I could put the message out to the status line but it will
    not be as descriptive as the message box.   
    
    I could display the message box on the first time the user
    looks into the entity and then always put it to the status box.
    
    Of course there are other solutions but the more complex, the
    less chance it will get in the MUP kit.
    
    Which do you prefer?
    
    /Jim
    
    p.s. please send reply to took::lemmon.
    
    

    Jim,
    
    	I like the idea of the status line better.  Doesn't the status line
    have a scroll bar?  Can't you put the whole message there?
    
    Thanks,
    Dan

How does this solution grab you all:

A new toggle button is added to the Options Menu Map entry -

	Display Partial Registration Warning

Initially it is set to display partial registration warnings in the popup box,
just like in V1.3.  However, if you toggle the button and then press ok or
apply, from then on in that session (or until changed) if you look into a
partially registered entity, a line is displayed in the status area -

<class instance> is partially registered. You may want to fully register it.

Also, like other customizable information, you can Save Current Settings and
then subsequent sessions can display the partial registration either in the
popup box or in the map status area.

Hope this helps!
Verna

    Allowing users to customize their environment as much as possible is
    goodness.  Thanks for your suggestion.  I think it will work well,
    Verna.
    
    -Dan

    Hi,
    
    RE: .7
    
    Has this Display Partial Registration Warning button ever been
    implemented?  I have the following MCC_ICONIC_MAP_PM.EXE file (which
    included other fixes) but it does not appear to have this built in.
    
    
            Image Identification Information
    
                    image name: "MCC_ICONIC_MAP_PM"
                    image file identification: "DECMCC V1.3-04"
                    link date/time:  3-JUN-1994 10:47:44.01
                    linker identification: "05-13"
    
    Thanks,
    Walt