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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

4996.0. "TSAM AM getchar and maintenance passw problems" by BACHUS::FOLENS () Tue May 04 1993 12:18

    I found some other problems in the TSAM AM.
    1. When you run the mcc_am_getchar routine to retrieve the
    characteristics of a server located on a remote lan via a 64k (translan
    bridge), the routine fails after a while with the 'cannot communicate
    with target' message. This while you can do a show of all the
    characteristics.
    
    2. When you register a terminal server and you enter a DECnet address
    and a maintenance password, the server is also defined in ncp but
    the maintenance password is not set correct in ncp.
    
    3. When you want to modify the maintenance password with the
    'set attributes' command, it is not echoed and the result
    of the set is wrong. In ncp you can find the following value:
    %x0000000000595352.
    
    4. What is the mcc command for the TSM/NCP 'show user' command?
    
    Any solutions for these problems?
    I don't expect much replies to this note as I watched the other
    note entries and replies regarding the TSAM AM. 
    What a pity, now that more and more customers who use mcc are trying
    to migrate from TSM to the TSAM AM. 
    
    -Geert-
                  
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4996.1Product management pointersTOOK::MINTZErik Pavlik MintzTue May 11 1993 00:319
As you have observed, there is not much in the way of technical support
for terminal server management.  If you can demonstrate that this is
causing a business problem, the people to contact are:

JONATHAN (MEMIT::) LEWANDOWSKI

and for TSAM specific questions,

LAUREL (MOLAR::) NELSON
4996.2some answersTOOK::CASSIDYLinda, LKG2-2/BB10, DTN 226-7270Tue May 11 1993 11:1921
I can try to offer some answers...

1. In TSM there is a logical to handle the situation of remote console 
connections over slow links.  There is no parallel concept in TS AM.  This
could be a suggestion for product management to consider.

2. There is no way for the TS AM get_char to read the maintenance password -
or any password, for that matter.  Remember the get_char is "reading" a series
of displays about the server and translating them into commands.  If it can't 
read a password, it can't capture it.  I think the get_char is supposed to
leave the passwords as they are.  If that's not the case, it might set them to
their defaults.  The documentation should tell you which is the expected
behavior.

3. The maintenance password should not be echoed when set - that's a security
feature.  If the result of the set is wrong, that sounds like a bug.

4. If I remember correctly, there is no explicit 'show user' command.  You can 
issue the "show ts port all status" command to get the user information.

 - Linda
4996.3Futur release of TSAM?BACHUS::FOLENSFri May 14 1993 04:3511
    
    In TSM the logical is named TSM$USE_SERVER_TIMEOUT.
    Will the TSAM use this logical when it is defined?
    Will this functionaltiy ever be available in TSAM?
    Apperently a set of the maintenance password fails, so this is
    a bug. Will it be solved in a next release?
    The show port status command doesn't provide all the info as with
    the TSM show user command. There is no MCC command to see the
    username of the port.
    
    -Geert-
4996.4TOOK::CASSIDYLinda, LKG2-2/BB10, DTN 226-7270Fri May 14 1993 10:2714
You're right, TSM$USE_SERVER_TIMEOUT is the logical that enables slower 
connections in TSM.  This same method cannot be used in MCC because of the 
way TSAM invokes TSM - it makes logical translation impossible.  It would
have to be implemented as a new MCC logical.

I haven't worked on the project for a couple of years, so I can't answer 
anything about future releases or bug fixes.  I have seen the product manager's
name and mail address listed in another note - if someone can provide a pointer
then I would suggest contacting him/her.

As for the port username, I thought there was one command that would return 
this info.  If it is not SHOW PORT STATUS, then I don't remember what it is.  

- Linda
4996.5logical works with TSAMBACHUS::FOLENSFri May 14 1993 10:416
    After I've defined the TSM$USE_SERVER_TIMEOUT logical and restarting MCC
    the getchar acroos the slow link worked ok. Seems that TSAM is
    watching this logical.
    
    -Geert-