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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

4964.0. "Urgent - Alarms repository does not exist" by RDGENG::PRATT () Wed Apr 28 1993 09:04

VMS 5.5-2
MCC V1.3
DNS

Hi,

MCC has been running with no problems for sometime now, however I have just 
realised that none of my alarms are working anymore. Whenever I try to look at
any of my alarm rules I get the following error...

Mccduf_MCC>>>mana/ent
DECmcc (V1.3.0)

MCC> show domain europe rule * all attr
%MCC-E-NOREPOSEXIST, repository does not exist
MCC>

MCC> show mcc 0 alarms all attr

MCC 0 ALARMS
AT 28-APR-1993 12:57:08 All Attributes

               Component Identification = "DECmcc Alarms FM"
                      Component Version = V1.3.0

Yet the MIR files are still present...

Directory SYS$COMMON:[MCC]

MCC_ALARMS_ATTRIBUTE_MIR.DAT;1
                     [SYSTEM]              (RWED,RWED,RWED,R)
MCC_ALARMS_INSTANCE_MIR.DAT;1
                     [SYSTEM]              (RWED,RWED,RWED,R)
   
Does anyone have any ideas as this is causing MAJOR problems.

Thanks

Ian
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4964.1Try enrolling AlarmsMOLAR::ROBERTSKeith Roberts - Network Management ApplicationsWed Apr 28 1993 09:216
  I don't know what is causing the problem .. but you can try to
  re-create the Alarms MIR by enrolling Alarms again ...

	MCC> enroll mcc_alarms_fm

  /keith
4964.2That worked - but why?RDGENG::PRATTWed Apr 28 1993 09:2711
Hi Keith,

Re-enrolling the alarms fm fixed the problem, but do you have any idea why it
went wrong? The system has been up for 38 days.

Is there anything I can do to try and capture any error messages etc, that may
give a clue should it happen again.

Thanks

Ian
4964.3MIR-of-all-MIR's must have forgot about AlarmsMOLAR::ROBERTSKeith Roberts - Network Management ApplicationsWed Apr 28 1993 14:2514
    >> but do you have any idea why it went wrong ?
    
    No .. When you enroll Alarms, it tries to create the Alarms MIR's.
    All other Alarm directives simply try to access the MIR, but not
    re-create it.  Why suddenly the MIR was thought not to exist is beyond
    me.  There is a MIR-of-all-MIR's file which describes all other MIR's. 
    I imagine that the information in this file was lost or something.
    
    Did you loose *any* rules?  If not, the Alarm MIR's themselves were not
    lost, just the MIR-of-all-MIR's forgot about Alarms.
    
    Any MCC-Kernel-Types got an idea ?
    
    /keith
4964.4date problem?RACER::daveAhh, but fortunately, I have the key to escape reality.Wed Apr 28 1993 14:489
I have seen this too, and it was related to the "MIR of all MIRs", as you
put it, having the wrong date for the creation of the MIR.  That may not be
the case this time, but if you adjust the system date (I.e. set it back) after
creating a MIR, then the MIR will not "exist", even if it is actually there.
after the correct amount of time, the MIR will suddenly "re-appear".
There was a problem with VMS 5.5-something upgrades that caused the system to
get a date that was a year early.  I did not notice it until I had installed
MCC, and had to re-create all the MIRs to get them seen after I set the date
to the correct value.
4964.5RDGENG::PRATTThu Apr 29 1993 14:3816
Re: .3

I did not lose any alarm rules.

Re: .4

No - no upgrades have been down recently - in fact the last installation was MCC
V1.3 (and that was when the SSB kit shipped). The system time is correct.

It is a bit worrying as I only noticed it after a couple of days when I realised
that I hadn't been receiving my usual daily collection of alarms. I will keep
an eye on it in the future and see if it happens again.

Cheers

Ian
4964.6system time is Ok, but check the MCC_TDF logical for the correct valueMOLAR::ROBERTSKeith Roberts - Network Management ApplicationsThu Apr 29 1993 17:090
4964.7TDF was wrongRDGENG::PRATTFri Apr 30 1993 07:2912
Hi Keith,

I had forgotten to change the MCC TDF when the clocks changed (remembered DNS).
It did manage to work for 3 weeks before it went wrong though.

Thanks for your help.

I'll remember to change when the clocks go back.

Cheers

Ian
4964.8Alarms repository problem still exists...CUJO::HILLDan Hill-Net.Mgt.-Customer ResidentWed Nov 03 1993 00:4610
    I have encountered this problem along with a DSPMMLOCFILERR,
    Dispatch local management module file access during probe.
    
    I have tried everything suggested in these and other notes, but nothing
    works.
    
    Any ideas??
    
    Thanks,
    Dan
4964.9It was a problem with time...CUJO::HILLDan Hill-Net.Mgt.-Customer ResidentWed Nov 03 1993 14:406
    Seems that I had neglected to check the system date/time completely. 
    The time was correct, but the system manager had put in 1990 instead of
    1993 as the year.  Once this and MCC_TDF were set properly, everything
    worked "magically".
    
    -Dan