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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

4866.0. "Error: MCC Routine %MCC-E-ILVEOC, end of constructor reached" by CSC32::CALLAGHAN (Remembrance and regrets, are also part of friendship) Mon Apr 12 1993 19:09

    
    	Having a customer running V1.2.3 on Ultrix.
    
    	(note: they have been using MTU quite a bit....)
    
    	Previously he found: When selecting a system from the map
    	pulling down it CHARS, then querying for interfaces he was
    	getting back a successful response.
    
    	Now when he does a query (from most any system except himself)
    	he is getting:
            VMS routine error 0
            MCC Routine %MCC-E-ILVEOC, end of constructor reached
    
    
    					any thoughts appreciated.
    
    						Jack
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4866.1more info needed.MCDOUG::dougDead or Canadian?Tue Apr 13 1993 09:575
You mention MTU.  Should we infer that this only happens when the customer
selects an SNMP object?  Or does it happen for *other* objects ?  I.e. do
you see the same behavior for NODE4, STATION, BRIDGE, etc object?

/doug
4866.2IP network, still need to know what the error meansCSC32::CALLAGHANRemembrance and regrets, are also part of friendshipTue Apr 13 1993 19:3912
    re .1
    
    MTU as in the mib translator.
    
    The network in question is primarilly IP, no PhIV, PhV, or bridge
    devices.
    
    The real question remains what causes this error?
    
    	Any takers before I dial up engineering??
    
    							Jack
4866.3TOOK::MCPHERSONDead or Canadian?Tue Apr 13 1993 22:4453
Ok.  Let's start over and try to nail it down a bit more.

re .0
>    	Previously he found: When selecting a system from the map
>    	pulling down it CHARS, then querying for interfaces he was
>    	getting back a successful response.
>    

    In the interest of boing precise, I assume you mean that from the
    Iconic Map:
    	1. the user is selecting an SNMP object, 
    	2. double-clicking to get to the "Interface..." child object
    	3. double-clicing on "Interface" to enumerate the avaiable
           interfaces on the object
    	4. selecting an interface from the list
    	5. going to the Operations Menu
    	6. selecting "SHOW -> Characteristics".
        7. At that point, the user gets the error.

    Is this what you mean?

>    	Now when he does a query (from most any system except himself)
>    	he is getting:
>            VMS routine error 0
>            MCC Routine %MCC-E-ILVEOC, end of constructor reached


    Do you mean "...for most any system except..." ? 
                    ^^^ 

    If so, then what sort of SNMP obects are you selecting to return this
    error?


re .2
>    
>    The real question remains what causes this error?
>

    And my questions remains: what happens when you try a SHOW to something
    OTHER than an SNMP object?   I'm trying to help you narrow this down
    and it might be premature to point at the SNMP AM -- at least without
    first doing a little bit of kicking the tires.  (Reminds me of a joke
    about Field Service... ;^))

    For future reference: when you want to know what an error message is
    *supposed* to indicate, you can look it up in the SRM -- sorry I'm at
    home right now, otherwise I'd look up the exact text on this one for
    you.  Notice that I said 'supposed' to indicate -- sometimes developers
    have been known return the wrong code for an error.  It doesn't happen
    often, but it can happen.

    /doug.
4866.4more infoCSC32::CALLAGHANRemembrance and regrets, are also part of friendshipFri Apr 23 1993 16:2979
>    In the interest of boing precise, I assume you mean that from the
>    Iconic Map:
>    	1. the user is selecting an SNMP object, 
>    	2. double-clicking to get to the "Interface..." child object
>    	3. double-clicing on "Interface" to enumerate the avaiable
>           interfaces on the object
>    	4. selecting an interface from the list
>    	5. going to the Operations Menu
>    	6. selecting "SHOW -> Characteristics".
>        7. At that point, the user gets the error.
>
>    Is this what you mean?

    	under normal conditions 1-6 work fine. His error comes
    	randomly when he is executing step 2.  Then the illegal
    	constructor error occurs.  Since this is all via the
    	DEC mib (already defined inside the application), and
    	since he has been "messing" extensively with the MIBS,
    	my suspicion is he's corrupted the db.
    
    	Today he also noted he was seeing this occur a few times
    	at the original install after they had tried out "a few things"
    	(we had a parallel problem with the DTK when they had installed
    	 it without putting in ULTPGM, and then were having thread errors)
        with the system.
    
    
    
>>    	Now when he does a query (from most any system except himself)
>>    	he is getting:
>>            VMS routine error 0
>>            MCC Routine %MCC-E-ILVEOC, end of constructor reached
>
>
>    Do you mean "...for most any system except..." ? 
                    ^^^ 

    	YES, FOR, not FROM
    
>    If so, then what sort of SNMP obects are you selecting to return this
>    error?

	This is all during the above step 2-3.
    
re .2
>    
>    The real question remains what causes this error?
>

>    And my questions remains: what happens when you try a SHOW to something
>    OTHER than an SNMP object?   I'm trying to help you narrow this down
>    and it might be premature to point at the SNMP AM -- at least without
>    first doing a little bit of kicking the tires.  (Reminds me of a joke
>    about Field Service... ;^))
>
    
	The problem is they have NO components other then IP on there
    	network, so there is nothing registered to query against.
    	(I wish there were!!, and there network config is so tightly managed 
    	 they need a 3 team agreement to add components or change MCC!)
    
>    For future reference: when you want to know what an error message is
>    *supposed* to indicate, you can look it up in the SRM -- sorry I'm at
>    home right now, otherwise I'd look up the exact text on this one for
>    you.  Notice that I said 'supposed' to indicate -- sometimes developers
>    have been known return the wrong code for an error.  It doesn't happen
>    often, but it can happen.
>
>    /doug.
    
    
	We've been battling with SSB to send us the ULTRIX MCC kits,
    	but they keep scheduling us for the VAX/VMS kits, I've been
    	hunting the SRM on the network as a result.
    
    			 			thanks for the assistance,
    
    						Jack