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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

4855.0. "Global Entities have been deregistered?" by LICAUS::LICAUSE (Al Licause (264-4780)) Fri Apr 09 1993 20:37

    V1.3 DECmcc on ULTRIX....probably on VMS as well.
    
    When opening a domain in the Iconic map interface, if a mismatch
    occurs between the MIR/DNS and the map file, a message is displayed
    some thing to the effect " one or more global entities has been
    deregistered"....(sorry... doing this from memory).
    
    This turns out to be one of those "Royal Pain" type messages in that
    the message only stated that something is missing.....it doesn't tell
    the user which entity is being flagged is missing.  
    
    1) Is this a significant message in terms of functionality...(i.e.
    	will it prevent other functions from completing)?
    
    2) If it is not significant why bother displaying it?
    
    3) If it is significant why not try to do a better job of finding
       the entity that has been deregistered?
       
    4) If 3=true, then is it possible to compare the contents of the
       map file for a missing entity.....(i.e. if the MIR/DNS entry is
       has been deregistered, presumably by the FCL interface, and the
       entry is still in the map file, then why not try to search the
       map file for string indicating or at least guessing at which
       entity has caused the error in the first place)?
    
    
    Al
    
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4855.1Here is how to fix itTOOK::R_SPENCENets don't fail me now...Tue Apr 13 1993 15:2716
    From the Command line do a
    
    MCC> show domain {domain name} member *
    
    and the output listing will show you which members are deregistered.
    
    To clean it up just do a
    
    MCC> delete domain {domain name} member {member name}
    
    No more error message when you open the map.
    
    I agree that it would be good if it told you which members were a
    problem. QAR it if it is important to you.
    
    s/rob
4855.2Engineering....please do more when obvious!LICAUS::LICAUSEAl Licause (264-4780)Tue Apr 13 1993 16:0417
    Rob,
    
    Thanks for the hint.
    
    I'll try to QAR this, as I believe that it is incorrect or "lazy"
    behavior.
    
    The simple fact that you can issue the FCL commands as you have
    indicated shows that MCC already has knowledge of the specific entities
    that it believes have been deregistered.  
    
    Perhaps it might be asking too much or making an assumption that the
    program should take the action to automatically correct this situation,
    but minimally it should notify the user of the specific entities that
    it detected rather than just report "some" have been deregistered.
    
    Al
4855.3You can delete member, but not entity.CUJO::HILLDan Hill-Net.Mgt.-Customer ResidentWed Apr 14 1993 13:3014
    Of course you can delete the member from the domain, but that is not
    the problem.  The entity cannot be deregistered.  This is a problem
    similar to the "dangling link" of DNS.
    
    I was asked whether or not this was a big enough issue for resoultion
    before shipping V1.3.  When I thought it was a domain-based issue, I
    said "No".  
    
    I now realize I goofed.  If William Kwak's "dangling-link-removal"
    utility works, I will live with the problem until it is fixed in a
    future release.  I will generate a CLD to track this.
    
    Regards,
    Dan