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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

4838.0. "Community name storage and Alarms FM ?" by ZUR01::FUEGLISTER (Roland Fueglister, 760-2498) Wed Apr 07 1993 11:40

I did some testing with the new MCC feature "Community name storage per
instance for read, read/write"  together with the Alarms FM.

With DECmcc V1.2, community name storage was not possible. To enable alarm
rules we had to use the qualifier /by password "communityname"/.

With DECmcc V1.3 we are able to store community names and the question is, if
the Alarms FM is picking up the stored community names when the snmp alarm rule
will be enabled and/or evaluated. 

I have created an alarm rule like :
Expression = (snmp * ifnumber = 0, at every 0:05:0) 

The alarm rule was running with 3 Cisco routers with a community name <>
"public" and to my surprise evaluation was always "false"
Does this mean, that the alarms FM is first searching for stored community
names?

Then, I added some other SNMP devices with community "public" to the same
domain and enabled the SNMP wildcard rule again.
During this time I got alarm exceptions from the Cisco routers.

I would like to have a clear answer if this new DECmcc V1.3 feature can be used
together with the Alarms FM.

The idea is to have all SNMP devices in one domain with only one SNMP wildcard
reachability rule regardless of different community names.


				Best Regards,


				Roland
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4838.1MOLAR::YAHEY::BOSEWed Apr 07 1993 16:4212
	The Alarms FM calls the SNMP AM which always uses the correct 
	community name associated with the entity in question. This will
	be true even for alarms global wildcarding.

	The IPReachability status attribute is evaluated using ICMP pings
	and does not use any SNMP requests. Thus the community name is not
	relevant for this operation. Have you tried using the IP Reachability
	Poller which is shipped with V1.3? You will not need to write any alarm
	rules to get notified of reachability status changes of IP nodes.

	Rahul.
4838.2MCDOUG::dougpre-retinal integrationWed Apr 07 1993 16:5210
>        The Alarms FM calls the SNMP AM which always uses the correct 
>	community name associated with the entity in question. This will
>	be true even for alarms global wildcarding.

You know, that this sort of change DOESN'T require a change to a generic FM
should point out one of the really *nifty* things about MCC...

Oh well. Back to the brickbats.

/doug
4838.3Problem currently not reproducableZUR01::FUEGLISTERRoland Fueglister, 760-2498Thu Apr 08 1993 05:1919
				Hi Rahul,

After your answer I did some further testing in the office.

After enabling the rule mentioned in .0, I changed community names on the fly
and the wildcard alarm rule worked always properly.

At the first look, the problem I experienced at customer site is not
reproducable; I will do a second try.

I will also try out the new IPreachability Poller. In the past we had a lot of
PING phantom alarms, that is the reason why we are currently polling everthing
with SNMP.


				Best regards,

				Roland

4838.4MOLAR::YAHEY::BOSEThu Apr 08 1993 11:4710
>>In the past we had a lot of
>>PING phantom alarms, that is the reason why we are currently polling everthing
>>with SNMP.

	Roland,
		I understand why you are using SNMP to test for reachability.
	However, I am curious to find out if the IP Poller is any more
	reliable than alarming on the ipreachability attribute.

	Rahul.
4838.5ZUR01::FUEGLISTERRoland Fueglister, 760-2498Tue Apr 13 1993 13:286
			Hi Rahul,

I will give you feedback. Earliest date for testing IP reachability poller at
this customer site will be possible at week 18 or 19.

			Roland