| Title: | DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT. |
| Notice: | Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187 |
| Moderator: | TAEC::BEROUD |
| Created: | Mon Aug 21 1989 |
| Last Modified: | Wed Jun 04 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 6497 |
| Total number of notes: | 27359 |
Hi,
A customer of ours has a problem managing a DS200, some time ago
he registered it without apparent problem, now when he try to
have some infos from it (via FCL or Iconic Map) the process goes
in HIB state and he couldn't retake control of it.
I tried to restart the TSAM, deregister the terminal server, register
it again (without success...), to register it like a Ethernet station
(still without success), BUT I'm able to connect to it via NCP or
TSM without problem. I tried to see if there are differences
between this DS200 (name DSVSIP) and another (name DSVSP1) that
I'm able to manage with MCC, but I find only little ,and IMHO,
non important differences (circuit timer and Keepalive Timer).
Has anyone ideas about this problem???
Here there are the log file of the batches that tried (from yesterday!!)
to register this DS200 like Terminal Server and Ethernet Station, I run
it via batch because I'm connect remotly and whant to check in what
state the process go (HIB state), the SDA output of of one of this
batch and the result of the connection via NCP.
Thanks in advance for helps,
Ciao Luciano Barilaro
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Log file (still running from yesterday 19:00) of the batch that's trying
to register it like a Terminal Server:
______________________________________
$ IF F$MODE() .NES. "INTERACTIVE" THEN $ Exit
$ IF F$MODE() .NES. "INTERACTIVE" THEN $ Exit
$ mana/enter
DECmcc (V1.2.0)
!
use verify
!
regist terminal .server.dsvsip addre 08-00-2B-11-42-29, type ds200
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Log file (still running from yesterday 19:00) of the batch that's trying
to register it like a Ethernet Station:
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$ IF F$MODE() .NES. "INTERACTIVE" THEN $ Exit
$ IF F$MODE() .NES. "INTERACTIVE" THEN $ Exit
$ mana/enter
DECmcc (V1.2.0)
!
use verify
!
regist station .dsvsip addre 08-00-2B-11-42-29
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
SDA output of the HIB process that's trying to register it like a Terminal
Server:
-------
SDA> show proc
Process index: 002C Name: BATCH_512 Extended PID: 00001C2C
--------------------------------------------------------------
Process status: 00044001 RES,BATCH,PHDRES
PCB address 80BD2120 JIB address 810093F0
PHD address 82536000 Swapfile disk address 00000000
Master internal PID 0038002C Subprocess count 0
Internal PID 0038002C Creator internal PID 00000000
Extended PID 00001C2C Creator extended PID 00000000
State HIB Termination mailbox 0000
Current priority 5 AST's enabled KESU
Base priority 3 AST's active NONE
UIC [00001,000004] AST's remaining 597
Mutex count 0 Buffered I/O count/limit 99/100
Waiting EF cluster 0 Direct I/O count/limit 100/100
Starting wait time 1C001C1C BUFIO byte count/limit 129020/129020
Event flag wait mask DFFFFFFF # open files allowed left 500
Local EF cluster 0 60000000 Timer entries allowed left 198
Local EF cluster 1 C0000000 Active page table count 0
Global cluster 2 pointer 00000000 Process WS page count 2585
Global cluster 3 pointer 00000000 Global WS page count 472
SDA> show proc/chann
Process index: 002C Name: BATCH_512 Extended PID: 00001C2C
--------------------------------------------------------------
Process active channels
-----------------------
Channel Window Status Device/file accessed
------- ------ ------ --------------------
0010 00000000 DKA700:
0020 8111B180 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]MCC_MAIN.E
XE;4
0030 8113AF80 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]VAXCRTL.EX
E;5 (section file)
0040 8113E680 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]UVMTHRTL.E
XE;3 (section file)
0050 8113B280 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]LIBRTL.EXE
;3 (section file)
0060 81113280 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]CMA$LIB_SH
R.EXE;3
0070 81129E80 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]CMA$RTL.EX
E;3
0080 8110A080 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]CMA$OPEN_R
TL.EXE;3
0090 81130980 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSMGR]A.LOG;1
Press RETURN for more.
SDA>
Process index: 002C Name: BATCH_512 Extended PID: 00001C2C
--------------------------------------------------------------
Channel Window Status Device/file accessed
------- ------ ------ --------------------
00A0 8113C680 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSMGR]A.COM;1
00B0 81118C00 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]CMA$OPEN_L
IB_SHR.EXE;2
00C0 81141680 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]MCC_MTS_PR
IV_SHR.EXE;4 (section file)
00D0 8113F200 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]MCC_KERNEL
_SHR.EXE;6 (section file)
00E0 00000000 DKA700:
00F0 00000000 DKA700:
0100 8113E780 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]MCC_FCL_PM
.EXE;4 (section file)
0110 8113C400 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]SMGSHR.EXE
;2 (section file)
0120 8113C600 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]LBRSHR.EXE
;3 (section file)
0130 8113DF00 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]MCC_PML_SH
R.EXE;3 (section file)
Press RETURN for more.
SDA>
Process index: 002C Name: BATCH_512 Extended PID: 00001C2C
--------------------------------------------------------------
Channel Window Status Device/file accessed
------- ------ ------ --------------------
0140 8111CD80 DKA0:[MCC]MCC_FDICTIONARY.DAT;3
0150 81122D00 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]DNS$SHARE.
EXE;2 (section file)
0160 00000000 Busy MBA7768:
0170 00000000 MBA24:
0180 8113C180 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]MCC_REGIST
RATION_FM.EXE;3 (section file)
01A0 81110280 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]MCC_TS_AM.
EXE;1 (section file)
01B0 8113C500 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]SCNRTL.EXE
;2 (section file)
01C0 00000000 MBA46:
01D0 8113AD00 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]MCC_DNA4_A
M.EXE;4 (section file)
01E0 8113A380 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]NMLSHR.EXE
;2 (section file)
Press RETURN for more.
SDA>
Process index: 002C Name: BATCH_512 Extended PID: 00001C2C
--------------------------------------------------------------
Channel Window Status Device/file accessed
------- ------ ------ --------------------
01F0 8110E780 DKA700:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]DNS$RTL.EX
E;2 (section file)
0200 81114C00 DKA0:[MCC]MCC_MIR_DIRECTORY.DAT;3
0210 81138E00 DKA0:[MCC]MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;3
0220 81117700 DKA0:[MCC]MCC_TS_AM_INST_MIR.DAT;1
0230 81129C00 DKA0:[MCC]MCC_TS_AM_ATTR_MIR.DAT;1
SDA>
---------------------------------
Output of the connection via NCP:
---------------------------------
ALMANS $ mc ncp connect via sva-0 phys addre 08-00-2B-11-42-29
Console connected (press CTRL/D when finished)
#
DECserver 200 Terminal Server V2.0 (BL29) - LAT V5.1
--< ALMANET -- Terminal Server >--
Please type HELP if you need assistance
Enter username> luk
Local> show server
DECserver 200 V2.0 BL29 LAT V5.1 ROM BL20 Uptime: 17 01:10:22
Address: 08-00-2B-11-42-29 Name: DSVSIP Number: 0
Identification: --< ALMANET -- Terminal Server >--
Circuit Timer: 30 Password Limit: 3
Console Port: 1 Queue Limit: 24
Inactivity Timer: 60 Retransmit Limit: 24
Keepalive Timer: 80 Session Limit: 32
Multicast Timer: 30 Software: PR0801ENG
Node Limit: 100
Service Groups: 0
Enabled Characteristics:
Announcements, Broadcast, Dump, Lock
ALMANS $ mc ncp connect via sva-0 phys addr 08-00-2B-10-E5-2F
Console connected (press CTRL/D when finished)
#
DECserver 200 Terminal Server V2.0 (BL29) - LAT V5.1
--< ALMANET -- Terminal Server >--
Please type HELP if you need assistance
Enter username> luk
Local> show server
DECserver 200 V2.0 BL29 LAT V5.1 ROM BL20 Uptime: 16 21:30:28
Address: 08-00-2B-10-E5-2F Name: DSVSP1 Number: 0
Identification: --< ALMANET -- Terminal Server >--
Circuit Timer: 80 Password Limit: 3
Console Port: 1 Queue Limit: 24
Inactivity Timer: 60 Retransmit Limit: 24
Keepalive Timer: 20 Session Limit: 32
Multicast Timer: 30 Software: PR0801ENG
Node Limit: 100
Service Groups: 0
Enabled Characteristics:
Announcements, Broadcast, Dump, Lock
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| 4666.1 | Something similiar | ZUR01::SCHNEIDERR | Thu Mar 11 1993 04:46 | 11 | |
Hello, We have here something similiar. We have registered more than 20 TS of different types. We had no problems. But now we cant access them to show or set the attributes. I deregistered one without problem but I'm not able to register it again. The window (register or show) is just hanging arround. No error- message, nothing. I have no further investigations done till now. Are there any known problems arround this behaviour? Regards Roland | |||||
| 4666.2 | Something you might want to try | SPANKY::SAWYER | Thu Mar 11 1993 13:18 | 21 | |
Hi,
I had a similar problem at a customer site...some terminal_servers
would register and some wouldn't. The syntax I was using was
Register terminal_server .ts.xxxx addr xxxxxxxx,type xxxxx
I beat my head in trying to get the others to fully register...
then I changed the syntax to:
Register terminal_server NAMESPACE:.ts.xxxx .....bla bla bla
and it worked...I have no idea why...but it worked.
I never figured out why some registered without the namespace
specification and some only registered with it specified...they
were even the same model of terminal server...
This is something you might want to try...as far fetched as it seems.
Rob
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| 4666.3 | Now didn't work nothing..... | MLNCSC::BARILARO | Fri Mar 12 1993 11:54 | 29 | |
Hi,
The problem doesn't seem anymore related to a single Terminal
Server, but more on the full TSAM.
Now (I mean today, yesterday was different...), I'm unable to
connect to a terminal server that yesterday worked (for es.
MCC> SHOW TERMINAL .SERVER.DSVSP1 ALL CHAR), the process goes in
HIB state.
After I restarted the TS_AM server process I was able to register
the terminal server that yesterday I was unable to
(and yesterday I tried many times, please believe me....).
For a while I was able to show characteristics from all the servers,
but on the second show the process again hanged around...
I create a command file that run MCC and make a command like
"show terminal * type", I started it at 12, the first time
worked, now he's still in HIB state.
I also try the Rob's solution, using the complete DNS name,
it didn't work.
So, for the engineering's people, is there a QAR on this problem ?
Or is it possible to open one ?
The customer in question want an answer, I could manage it for a
while, not for ever....
Thanks in advance for any help,
Ciao Luciano Barilaro
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| 4666.4 | agree with Luciano | ZUR01::SCHNEIDERR | Mon Mar 15 1993 07:50 | 7 | |
Hello, Luciano is right. It's important for us to solve the problem, too. Luciano is not the only one with this problem. Thanks for your help Roland | |||||
| 4666.5 | With TSAM v1.0-2 works.... | MLNCSC::BARILARO | Thu Mar 18 1993 03:32 | 9 | |
Hi,
I installed the TSAM v1.02 to my customer and now the problem
seems disappearing, at least for the moment.
I saw topic from other people that had installed the same patch
kit and has still the problem, so I don't feel completly confident.
Ciao from a day by day more confuse Luciano
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