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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

4637.0. "Map of States - Vector Format -AGAIN!!!" by BELMNT::BEAZLEY () Thu Mar 04 1993 11:05

    Hi,



      I have a customer that wishes to place their managed objects on
    several individual U.S. State backdrop maps. Our competitors provide
    these map backdrops with their NMS's. So, it just seems logical that
    Digital can too. 

      Given the above, does anyone have a library of individual U.S. 
    States in native DECmcc format (VECTOR)? If so, would you please make
    it available by palcing a pointer to it on the NET in a reply to this
    note?

      Another solution would be to make the "DRAW_MAP" routine MOTIF
    compliant and give instructions in English so that we can Scan in
    BITMAP and save in VECTOR format.

      It sure would be nice if some other format could be deployed. MSU
    reads DDIF (or so I've been told) in V1.2 for backdrops.

      This is a customer satisfaction/selling point. Whoever can respond
    please do so. Your cooperation would be greatly appreciated.


                              Regards,
                          
                                Bob
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4637.1a painful solutionANOVAX::COMFORTCold iron shackle, ball & chainThu Mar 04 1993 11:2017
    
    There is a way...however painful it is.  Heres what I did to satify my
    customers requirement of having each european country broken out
    individually.  I simply broke each group of vectors out of the european
    backdrop into separate files.  Viewed and named them.  Generated
    program specs for a program that would resize the datapoints by
    percentage (some one else from the customers staff wrote the code in C,
    so unfortunately I can't provide access to it) and just re-sized and
    viewed the results until the map was an appropriate size.  I then found
    that the maps would be placed in odd sections of the display, so I
    manually edited them and changed the decimal portion of the X and Y
    coordinates until the map appeared where I wanted it to.
    
    Ain't it great? :-)
    
    Dave
    
4637.2Use AutoCAD and DXF2MAP to get the backdropANTIK::WESTERBERGStefan Westerberg DS StockholmThu Mar 04 1993 11:3822
	Hi, If you have AutoCAD some were you could make your maps in AutoCAD
	and then convert them to DECmcc backdrop vector format by using
	the DXF2MAP.EXE program.

	This is simply done by saving your AutoCAD drawing into DXF format
	without any POLYLINE. When you has done this simple execute the
	DXF2MAP program and answer the questions.

	The DXF2MAP program could be found at:

	$ dir combat""::sys$public:dxf2map

	Directory COMBAT""::USR:[KIT]

	DXF2MAP.EXE;1         5-MAY-1992 16:04:36.00  (RWED,RWED,RE,RE)

	Total of 1 file.

	Hops this help.

	/Stefan	
4637.3Maps-R-UsTOOK::R_SPENCENets don't fail me now...Tue Mar 09 1993 10:5313
    Ok, I'll bite.
    
    I am creating individual state map backdrops. They won't be high
    resolution though. The same as the US Map.
    
    Which states are needed first?
    
    It is clear that backdrops that fill the default navigation window are
    needed. What other scales if any? If the backdrop is smaller than
    the navigation window, where should it be located (lower left, center,
    upper right, etc)?
    
    s/rob
4637.4State Backdrops availableTOOK::R_SPENCENets don't fail me now...Mon Mar 15 1993 15:2212
    There are a set of individual state vector backdrop files now
    available. This first set is scaled to fill the navigation window.
    
    They can be found in:
      NETS::USER$NETS:[DECMCC.BACKDROP_MAPS]MCC_statename_LARGE.MCC_BACKDROP
    and
      TOOK::USER$778:[SURVIVAL.MAPS]MCC_statename_LARGE.MCC_BACKDROP
    
    s/rob
    
    ps
    I am still interested in input as described in the previous reply.
4637.5how does one convert from x format to vector ?HERON::PATEL_ALoLo-AQIC-I82Q-B4IP, - LMFTue Mar 16 1993 03:5512
    Is it possible to convert TIFF scanned file formats to vector format,
    for tat matter any format to the vector format used by mcc.
    
    Bit maps are ok up to a point, they do not appear in the Navigation
    window.
    
    Amrit,
    
    PS looks like the directory spec on NETS:: is not correct in -1.
    
    

4637.6SPANKY::SAWYERTue Mar 16 1993 09:555
    You're right, the directory spec is incorrect.
    
    It should be: NETS::USER$NETS:[DECMCC.BACKGROUND_MAPS]
    
    Come on Rob...Let's get on the ball!!  ;-)
4637.7Eyes are the second thing to go...MCDOUG::dougpre-retinal integrationTue Mar 16 1993 10:116
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>    Come on Rob...Let's get on the ball!!  ;-)
>
        Cmon.  Give the old guy a break!    

/doug ;^) 
4637.8Directory is fixed.TOOK::R_SPENCENets don't fail me now...Tue Mar 16 1993 10:3113
    Ok, I fixed the directory spec. I guess thats what happens when you get
    old :-)
    
    Don't know of a way to convert bitmaps to vectors. There arn't any
    lines in a bitmap, only dots. So there isn't any way to really
    determine where the endpoints of the lines are. (note, there are
    likely some really sophisticated AI CAD stuff that can analyize
    images but I sure don't have it)
    
    The trick is to get the original info in some sort of vector format
    then it is possible to convert it to the MCC format.
    
    s/rob
4637.9Regional Backdrops anyone?TOOK::R_SPENCENets don't fail me now...Tue Mar 16 1993 11:038
    I have been asked about backdrops for regions. New England comes to
    mind as a region (and why not, I live there).
    
    Are regions usefull? Important?
    
    Which regions should I do (name the region and list the states)?
    
    s/rob
4637.10European Maps ?HADRES::KRAUSEEuropean NewProductEngineer for MCCWed Mar 17 1993 05:237
Hi Rob,

while you're at it ... what about European maps?
For me obviously the most interesting would be
Germany - with regions, of course ;-)

*Robert
4637.11I will lookTOOK::R_SPENCENets don't fail me now...Wed Mar 17 1993 11:323
    Hi. I will look at em and see what I can do. Can't promis right now...
    
    s/rob
4637.12Go north, young man... ;^)KAOFS::BOIVINMoi, j'viens du nord!Wed Mar 17 1993 14:357
Hi Rob,

While we're at it, any chance for a Canadian map? by province?

Thanks,

Ed
4637.13Two sizes of State & Europe backdrops availableTOOK::R_SPENCENets don't fail me now...Mon Jun 21 1993 17:3710
    More backdrops are now available.
    
    There are now large and small backdrops for all US States + New
    England and for most Europe countries.
    
    They are located at
    	TOOK::USER$778:[SURVIVAL.MAPS.EUROPE]
    	TOOK::USER$778:[SURVIVAL.MAPS.UNITED_STATES]
    
    s/rob