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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

4599.0. "New functionality to interact with ASCII port?" by KYOA::KOCH (It never hurts to ask...) Wed Feb 24 1993 15:29

    I recently went to network symposium. They talked about a new module
    which was part of the Basic Management System (Polycenter 200?) which
    would allow my customer to interact with console devices which had a
    terminal like appearance.
    
    Can anyone describe this functionality in detail?
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4599.1Script AM? - note 3679TOOK::MINTZErik MintzWed Feb 24 1993 17:217
Yes, BMS has been renamed Polycenter 200.

Do you know who at the network symposium talked about this module?
I would guess they are thinking of the script AM (see a previous note),
but would be interested in hearing if they had something else in mind.

-- Erik
4599.2KYOA::KOCHIt never hurts to ask...Thu Feb 25 1993 00:132
    Yes, it was the Script AM they talked about. I forgot who gave the
    presentation...
4599.3re -.2ANOVAX::COMFORTCold iron shackle, ball & chainThu Feb 25 1993 09:052
    
    Ray Paquet.
4599.4You can integrate anything with the framework!DELNI::R_PAQUETMon Mar 01 1993 09:0125
    
    
    	There are three different ways you can accomplish interaction with 
    	a console device.  In no particular order....
    
    	o Use VCS/Console manager, launch this from the framework and sink
    	  data collector events back from these products to the framework
    
    	o Use the script AM and write a script which interacts with the
    	  console device in any way you see fit (i.e. the more common
    	  commands to gather information)
    
    	o Write a shell/command procedure which brings up a terminal and
    	  connects to the console.  Add this as am application launch.
    
    	Obviously, the easiest and most powerful way to do this would be to
    use VCS/Console Mgr.  We can provide you with all the necessary stuff
    to integrate this with the framework.  The other two options are
    do-able without significant work, but you will have to create some
    scripts.
    
    	If you have any questions, please let me know.
    
    	regards
    	ray
4599.5Yah but...SOLVIT::SILVACarl Silva - TNM/PNM Business Development ManagerMon Mar 01 1993 17:3023
	RE: .4,

>    	There are three different ways you can accomplish interaction with 
>    	a console device.  In no particular order....
>    
>    	o Use VCS/Console manager, launch this from the framework and sink
>    	  data collector events back from these products to the framework

>    	o Use the script AM and write a script which interacts with the
>    	  console device in any way you see fit (i.e. the more common
>    	  commands to gather information)

	Has anyone actually done this?  Does an example exist?
    
>    	Obviously, the easiest and most powerful way to do this would be to
>    use VCS/Console Mgr.  We can provide you with all the necessary stuff
>    to integrate this with the framework.  The other two options are
>    do-able without significant work, but you will have to create some
>    scripts.

	Have you estimated how long it would take to do something like this?

	Carl
4599.6KYOA::KOCHIt never hurts to ask...Mon Mar 01 1993 18:4510
    Ray,
    
    	You've really got my adrenalin flowing here. Will the Script AM
    allow me to connect to "TT" or "LT" device on a VAX system and simply
    issue commands and get responses?
    
    As .5 asks, is there a simple example which can show this?
    
    Thanks,
    Ted
4599.7Not THAT simpleWELLIN::MCCALLUMTue Mar 02 1993 07:5716
    
    No , not simply, but it's not very difficult.
    
    The script am allows you to kick off a command procedure, this
    could run an image which could grab a port and do a series of asynch
    character io and then return some message to DECmcc. You would need to
    write the code with the approriate message strings youself.
    
    We have done something simpler for looking for alert messages from
    ports with an asynch management console.
    
    We have written a little detached process which monitors the input
    strings from an asynch port, compares them to stored strings and if a 
    match is found then send an event to a data collector.
    
    
4599.8Maybe you can share some good ideas...CSOADM::ROTHELVIS:: is alive... and reachable!!Tue Mar 02 1993 08:514
I wish the VCS folkes and DECmcc (ooops, I mean POLYcenter) dev. people
would get together for a little chat... somthing might come of it.

Lee (A veteran of monitoring network gear with VCS)
4599.9 VCS Integration....No Problems....DELNI::R_PAQUETTue Mar 02 1993 11:1922
    
    
    RE: .5, .8 
    
    	With regard to VCS / Console Manager, we have integrated these
    products on top of the POLYCENTER Framework V1.3.  In specific, we
    can launch various aspects of VCS, such as the C3 interface, connect to
    a console, review the log files.  Second, when VCS receives an event,
    this event can be passed on to the Framework via the data collector.
    
    This all works today.
    
    RE .6
    
    It is all do-able, the script AM is pretty flexible, but primarily
    focused on shows versus sets.  You can do sets in a script, but in a
    somewhat convoluted manner.  Basically, most anything you can do in
    DCL/Shell can be done via th script AM.  Of course, you probably only
    need to integrate certain things with the script AM.
    
    regards
    ray
4599.10KYOA::KOCHIt never hurts to ask...Tue Mar 02 1993 13:1310
    re: .7
    
    Care to make the code available to us? It would save us some work and
    we could test it to see how it would work.
    
    If we have something to start with, we could modify the program to
    do the sets.
    
    I'll seriously consider the VCS idea since the customer may want access
    to the port while also collecting data.
4599.11The POLYCENTER INTEGRATED stuff will be in MCC-TOOLssoon!DELNI::R_PAQUETTue Mar 02 1993 13:299
    
    Yes, We will be making it available in the MCC-TOOLS notesfile in the
    near future.  Of course, we have integrated MOST of the POLYCENTER
    products with the framework, not just VCS, and we will be making all of
    this available in the MCC-TOOLS notesfile.  Give us a few days to get
    it in there.
    
    regards
    ray