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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

4573.0. "Alarm on partially registered entity" by STRAS4::EBLE (Fran�ois EBLE. EIS Strasbourg France.) Fri Feb 19 1993 04:48

Hi,

I tried to enable a rule on a partially registered entity (entity registered when
DECmcc cannot communicate with it). It works but, at the first polling I got 
the following error condition in the alarms :
"Insufficient information, entity has only been partially registered."
The same things appears under DECmcc 1.2 and DECmcc T1.3.

I tried this with a station entity instance. My question is why does this error
appears with this kind of entity that has no child entities ? Why do we got a
partial registration message with this kind of entity ? Why is it impossible
to evaluate a rule on a partially registered entity ?

Thanks for your answers.

Fran�ois.
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4573.1From the Alarms FM perspective ...MOLAR::ROBERTSKeith Roberts - Network Management ApplicationsFri Feb 19 1993 07:5213
  Fran�ois,

  From the perspective of the Alarms FM ... Alarms uses the Entity spec
  as you specified it in the Rule Expression.  I imagine that you are
  using a DNS full name(?)  The entity spec is passed to the Management
  Module which in this case is converting the DNS Full Name to a form
  which it can use to directly communicate with the entity.  But, because
  the entity was never 'fully' registered, an error is returned during
  the conversion; the Management Module then returns the error to Alarms.

  What kind of entity were you registering?

  /keith  
4573.2Station entitySTRAS4::EBLEFran�ois EBLE. EIS Strasbourg France.Mon Mar 08 1993 09:5311
Keith,

I tried it with a station entity. With this kind of entity what is the result of 
the conversion from a DNS full name ? In the partial registration the Ethernet 
address is given and the Alternate Ethernet address also, so why is it impossible
to put an alarm on this entity ?

Thanks for your answer.

Fran�ois.

4573.3Station 'Full Names' are converted to Ethernet AddressesMOLAR::ROBERTSKeith Roberts - Network Management ApplicationsMon Mar 15 1993 16:0849
    Fran�ois,

>> With this kind of entity what is the result of the conversion from
>> a DNS full name ?

    The DNS full name for the Station entity is converted to the Ethernet
    Address.

    ---------

    Below, I have attempted to register a ficticious 'Station' entity.
    The register command failed with 'Cannot communicate with target'. 
    Subsequent 'Show' directives return the 'Insufficient information...'
    error .. even though I gave the Stations ethernet address.

    Alarms uses the same 'Show' directive and therefore returned the same
    'Insufficient information...' error.  This is why your rule is failing.

    The solution?

    Re-register your Station entity.  The registration must be successful
    before the Alarm Rule (the Show directive) will work correctly.  Also,
    if the Register directive fails, it will tell you why.

    Ok ?

    /keith

------------------------------------------------------------------------

MCC> register station fester address 08-00-2b-00-33-22

Station LOCAL_NS:.fester
AT 15-MAR-1993 15:59:08

Partial registration success. Please retry later to complete the registration.
        Reason for Partial Registration = Cannot communicate with target

------------------------------------------------------------------------

MCC> show station fester all count

Station LOCAL_NS:.fester
AT 15-MAR-1993 16:00:06 Counters

Insufficient information, entity has only been partially registered

------------------------------------------------------------------------
4573.4use address instead of fullnameGOSTE::CALLANDERMon Mar 15 1993 17:325
    modify your rule to specify the address and the rule will enable
    and if the device is available it will run. Otherwise partial or
    fully registered, it won't make a difference, only boxes that respond
    and keep a rule active.