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Conference azur::mcc

Title:	DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:	Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:	TAEC::BEROUD

Created:	Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:	Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	6497
Total number of notes:	27359

4332.0. "Term Servers won't Register!" by NPACEA::SAWYER () Mon Jan 04 1993 15:34

    I am having some problems getting Terminal Servers to FULLY
    register at a customer site.  I'm hoping to get some more
    suggestions to my problem.
    
    1) All the terminal servers are on the same extended LAN as the
       mcc system.
    2) I have verified that all of the HARDWARE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.
    3) Also, there are no passwords on any of the terminal servers 
       other than the default.
    
    In my .com file I am registering the servers like this: (except it
    is all on one line)
    
    REGISTER TERMINAL_SERVER NSDP_NS:.TS.DS3PA3
    	ADDR=08-00-2B-14-61-8C,TYPE=DS300
    
    
    Some Register and the majority won't.
    The error I am getting is this:
    
    Terminal_Server NSDP_NS:.TS.DS3PA3
    AT  4-JAN-1993 15:23:46
    
    Partial registration success. Please retry later to complete the
    registration.
            Reason for Partial Registration = Communication with the target
            has been interrupted
    
    
    Any Suggestions??
    
    Thanks in Advance,
    
    - Rob

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
4332.1		TOOK::FONSECA	I heard it through the Grapevine...	`Mon Jan 04 1993 16:16`	4
	I hope this is a DECnet phase IV system... as a previous note indicated, this may be the error you get one Phase V systems...which are not supported. -Dave
4332.2	It is phase IV	NPACEA::SAWYER		`Mon Jan 04 1993 16:37`	1
	Yeah, it is a DECnet phase IV system...
4332.3	Is TSM being used at same time ?	SIOG::TINNELLY	Consultancy for fee NOT free..	`Tue Jan 05 1993 08:59`	13
	Hello, Is it possible that someone else on site is using TSM product and is connected to the server. I had cannot communicate with server type error messages on a site and found that some other network manager was using TSM while I was trying to use TSAM. Perhaps, perhaps not. regards Peter ps Happy '93 to all
4332.4	Thought of that...	NPACEA::SAWYER		`Tue Jan 05 1993 09:51`	11
	It IS possible, but I've tried to register them at all hours, even late at night when I knew no one would be there. Same error every time. So I tend to doubt that it is TSM which is interrupting the connection. Thanks for the Suggestion Rob
4332.5	Do you have TSM?	CSOADM::ROTH	You like it, it likes you!	`Tue Jan 05 1993 10:07`	9
	If you have TSM on the site... See if TSM can connect to the console. I have seen situations where TSM says 'Console reservation attempt failed'... it is unclear to me what causes this (maybe someone doing an NCP CONNECT?). If another TSM user has the server then TSM yields the message 'Console is in use by another user'. Lee
4332.6	Can Connect with TSM	SPANKY::SAWYER		`Wed Jan 06 1993 13:47`	3
	I tried that and I am able to connect to the servers...this is really baffling me!!
4332.7	Still haven't Solved it!!!	SPANKY::SAWYER		`Fri Jan 08 1993 10:53`	6
	I am still haven't solved this problem and the customer is getting "itchy" cuz he wants his terminal servers being managed (I can't see why!! 8-) ) Any one else have any other suggestions or EVER come across something similar???
4332.8		VCSESU::WADE	Bill Wade, VAXc Systems & Support Eng	`Mon Jan 11 1993 12:18`	16
	Just a couple of questions (no answers)? Is it always the same servers that you can't communicate with? Can you get info returned using the show command and the hardware address? They don't have to be registered to talk to them. Put the show command in a com file and let it loop for awhile to see if it will eventually communicate. Are you succesful at communicate with them using the Station AM and the hardware address? How many ethernet controllers do you have on your DECmcc system?
4332.9	Did Register with STATION AM.	SPANKY::SAWYER		`Tue Jan 12 1993 09:49`	13
	Thanks for your response Bill. Yes it is always the same servers that will not register and I can't get any info on them by using the SHOW command. Thanks for the idea about registering them with the STATION AM, I hadn't thought of that! And they did register using the STATION AM which puzzles me even more??? Does this give you an idea to what might be the problem?? And there is only 1 Ethernet Controller on the system. - Rob
4332.10	Finally Fixed, THANKS!!!	SPANKY::SAWYER		`Tue Jan 12 1993 11:52`	13
	Bill, you got me going in the right direction and the problem is finally solved. In my .com file I was specifying the name of the name-space in the name of the entity (NSDP_NS:.ts.ds3paa). I deregistered everything and registered them without specifying the name space and they all registered! This sounds verrrry wierd because I don't think it should matter, but thanks to all who helped!! -Rob