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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

4331.0. "Unable to edit/copy alarm rule" by RDGENG::PRATT () Mon Jan 04 1993 10:49

VMS T1.3

I cannot edit/copy an alarm rule using the IMPM. Following the manual, I have
selected the rule and disabled it from the Rule View window. I then pull down 
the Operations menu, but I do not get either the SET or COPY functions listed.

Any ideas?

Ian
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4331.1check dictionaryGOSTE::CALLANDERMon Jan 04 1993 11:1415
    please check that your don't have multiple copies of the
    dictionary floating around (dir mcc_system:mcc_fdic*.*),
    and please check that when you did your installation and it asked
    if you wanted to update the dictionary that you said yes.
    
    To check the dictionary you can:
    
    $manage/tool/dict
    DAP> show class mcc subclass alarms sublcass rule
    
    you should see the set and copy functions listed here.
    
    If you see them in DAP then...we will have to see what is up.
    
    
4331.2Not in dictionary....RDGENG::PRATTMon Jan 04 1993 11:4969
DAP> show class mcc subclass alarms subclass rule

   Class (1) : MCC
     Subclass (2) : ALARMS
-----> Subclass (2) : RULE
         Definition (3) : PRESENTATION_NAME
         Definition (3) : INSTANCE_REQUIRED
         Definition (3) : DYNAMIC
         Definition (3) : INSTANCE_DATATYPE
         Attribute (5) : NAME 1
         Attribute (5) : EXPRESSION 2
         Attribute (5) : DESCRIPTION 3
         Attribute (5) : CATEGORY 4
         Attribute (5) : POSTFIXEXPRESSION 5
         Attribute (5) : PROCEDURE 6
         Attribute (5) : QUEUE 7
         Attribute (5) : PARAMETER 8
         Attribute (5) : STATE 9
         Attribute (5) : EXCEPTIONHANDLER 10
         Attribute (5) : SUBSTATE 11
         Attribute (5) : DISABLETIME 12
         Attribute (5) : ERRORCONDITION 13
         Attribute (5) : TIMEOFLASTEVALUATION 14
         Attribute (5) : RESULTOFLASTEVALUATION 15
         Attribute (5) : CREATIONTIMESTAMP 17
         Attribute (5) : EVALUATIONERROR 18
         Attribute (5) : EVALUATIONTRUE 19
         Attribute (5) : EVALUATIONFALSE 20
         Attribute (5) : PERCEIVEDSEVERITY 21
         Attribute (5) : EXPRESSIONTYPE 32
         Attribute (5) : CURRENTSEVERITY 33
         Attribute (5) : EVENTTYPE 34
         Attribute (5) : PROBABLECAUSE 35
         Attribute (5) : TARGETOBJECT 36
         Attribute (5) : NOTIFICATIONID 37
         Attribute (5) : ERRORENTITY 40
         Directive (6) : SHOW 1
         Directive (6) : CREATE 12
         Directive (6) : DELETE 13
         Directive (6) : ENABLE 14
         Directive (6) : DISABLE 15
         Directive (6) : EVALUATE 45
         Directive (6) : GETEVENT 65
         Event (10) : RULECREATED 27
         Event (10) : RULEDELETED 28
         Event (10) : RULEENABLED 29
         Event (10) : RULEDISABLED 30
         Event (10) : OSIRULEFIRED 34
         Event (10) : OSIRULEEXCEPTION 35
         Event (10) : OSIRULEDISABLED 36
         Event (10) : OSIRULECLEAR 37
         Attribute_Partition (11) : IDENTIFIERS 1
         Attribute_Partition (11) : STATUS 2
         Attribute_Partition (11) : COUNTERS 3
         Attribute_Partition (11) : CHARACTERISTICS 4
         Event_Partition (13) : CONFIGURATIONEVENTS 15
         Event_Partition (13) : NOTIFICATIONEVENTS 1

DAP>

>>please check that when you did your installation and it asked
>>    if you wanted to update the dictionary that you said yes.

As far as I can remember I did - it removed all of the ELM AM and FM functions,
so I assume that it did. I have re-installed the ELMS kit since then though.

Can I update the dictionary manually without having to re-install everything?

Ian
4331.3try domain ruleGOSTE::CALLANDERMon Jan 04 1993 14:348
    well it is possible, but....
    
    I am curious as to why they aren't there already. What you need
    is the .com file that goes with the alarms FM service interface.
    
    Could you first check DAP under class DOMAIN subclass RULE to
    see if the commands are there?
    
4331.4Not in domain eitherRDGENG::PRATTTue Jan 05 1993 05:0777
DAP> show class domain subclass rule

   Class (1) : DOMAIN
---> Subclass (2) : RULE
       Definition (3) : PRESENTATION_NAME
       Definition (3) : INSTANCE_REQUIRED
       Definition (3) : DYNAMIC
       Definition (3) : INSTANCE_DATATYPE
       Attribute (5) : NAME 1
       Attribute (5) : EXPRESSION 2
       Attribute (5) : DESCRIPTION 3
       Attribute (5) : CATEGORY 4
       Attribute (5) : POSTFIXEXPRESSION 5
       Attribute (5) : ALARMFIREDPROCEDURE 6
       Attribute (5) : BATCHQUEUE 7
       Attribute (5) : ALARMFIREDPARAMETERS 8
       Attribute (5) : STATE 9
       Attribute (5) : ALARMEXCEPTIONPROCEDURE 10
       Attribute (5) : SUBSTATE 11
       Attribute (5) : DISABLETIME 12
       Attribute (5) : ERRORCONDITION 13
       Attribute (5) : TIMEOFLASTEVALUATION 14
       Attribute (5) : RESULTOFLASTEVALUATION 15
       Attribute (5) : CREATIONTIMESTAMP 17
       Attribute (5) : EVALUATIONERROR 18
       Attribute (5) : EVALUATIONTRUE 19
       Attribute (5) : EVALUATIONFALSE 20
       Attribute (5) : SEVERITY 21
       Attribute (5) : EXPRESSIONTYPE 32
       Attribute (5) : CURRENTSEVERITY 33
       Attribute (5) : EVENTTYPE 34
       Attribute (5) : PROBABLECAUSE 35
       Attribute (5) : TARGETOBJECT 36
       Attribute (5) : NOTIFICATIONID 37
       Attribute (5) : ERRORENTITY 40
       Attribute (5) : TARGETENTITY 111
       Directive (6) : SHOW 1
       Directive (6) : CREATE 12
       Directive (6) : DELETE 13
       Directive (6) : ENABLE 14
       Directive (6) : DISABLE 15
       Directive (6) : GETEVENT 65
       Event (10) : RULECREATED 27
       Event (10) : RULEDELETED 28
       Event (10) : RULEENABLED 29
       Event (10) : RULEDISABLED 30
       Event (10) : OSIRULEFIRED 34
       Event (10) : OSIRULEEXCEPTION 35
       Event (10) : OSIRULEDISABLED 36
       Attribute_Partition (11) : IDENTIFIERS 1
       Attribute_Partition (11) : STATUS 2
       Attribute_Partition (11) : COUNTERS 3
       Attribute_Partition (11) : CHARACTERISTICS 4
       Attribute_Group (12) : RULEATTRIBUTES 50
       Event_Partition (13) : CONFIGURATIONEVENTS 15
       Event_Partition (13) : NOTIFICATIONEVENTS 16
       Event_Group (14) : OSIEVENTS 222

DAP>

I have looked at the file MCC_FM_ALARMS_SVC_IF.COM, and it looks like a 1.2 file
it doesn't have either the SET or COPY directives in it. Should an updated copy
of this file have been included in the T1.3 kit? as I cannot see it in any of 
the savesets.


Directory SYS$COMMON:[MCC]

MCC_FM_ALARMS_SVC_IF.COM;3
                        223  20-JUN-1992 05:38:27.00

Total of 1 file, 223 blocks.


Cheers

Ian
4331.5Same here.SUBURB::SMYTHIIan Smyth 830-3869Tue Jan 05 1993 08:2215

	FWIW, I have exactly the same problem. I don't get the EDIT functions
and I also don't have the new wildcard options for rules. 

What I did was -

	Create a virgin VMS 5.5-2 system and preq layered products.
	Installed MCC T1.3
	tweeked ELM AM and FM kits and installed.


	 
regards,
	Ian
4331.6Me also, FYIONTIME::BUGSBY::COBBWriting from ALPHA AXPTue Jan 05 1993 11:508
    Not that you need anymore...  I have the same problem.  
    
    
    VMS 5.5-1
    T1.3 MCC BMS
    Tweeked ELM kits.
    
    Bill
4331.7I have same problemsHLRG02::NOTESOpel Manta GSIThu Jan 07 1993 03:2933
Hi,

>    well it is possible, but....
>    
>    I am curious as to why they aren't there already. What you need
>    is the .com file that goes with the alarms FM service interface.
>    
>    Could you first check DAP under class DOMAIN subclass RULE to
>    see if the commands are there?

I have the same problem.
I have a microvax 3600 where the COPY and SET of alarm rules is available,
but on my VS4000-60 the COPY and SET are disapeared.

Maybe it is a problem of one of the following AM's (they are on the VS4000 but 
not on the microvax):
TS AM
ELM AM/FM
SNA AM


VS4000-60			MicroVAX 3600
40 MB				32 MB
DECmcc T1.3			DECmcc T1.3
VMS 5.5-2			VMS 5.5


Kindest regards,

/-/	Henk.


(PS. This is something like QAR 47 )
4331.8older elms on t1.3GOSTE::CALLANDERThu Jan 07 1993 09:355
    the elms kit installs a version (older) of the alarms FM when
    you install that kit. So installing ELMS over T1.3 will cause
    problems, including removing the copy and set functions.
    
    
4331.9ONTIME::BUGSBY::COBBWriting from ALPHA AXPThu Jan 07 1993 10:151
    Will a updated copy of the ELMS AM be offered for 1.3?