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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

4262.0. "notification and distributed DECmcc?!?" by COL01::LUNT () Wed Dec 16 1992 11:19

    Hello,
    
    	I have some questions concerning the Notifications Services:
    
    1. Is it a Presentation Module or Functional Module? 
    
    I have seen in
    some DECmcc-EMA pictures a Presentation Module called Notification
    Services and Functional module called Notification.( a colored paphlet
    called DECmcc  Family of Management Products ) Other times
    I have only seen the functional Module. (V1.3 documentation)
    
    2. Can one startup the notification services without starting up the
    iconic map? Perhaps using the command manage/enter/presentation=
    
    I tried the following and got the following results:
    
    Julie Ann:manage/enter/present=mcc_notification_fm
    %LIB-E-KEYNOTFOU, key not found in tree
    %TRACE-E-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows
    module name     routine name                     line       rel PC   
    abs PC
    
                                                               000528FA 
    000528FA
                                                               000D6546 
    000D6546
                                                               000D6493 
    000D6493
    MCC_MAIN        main                             7717      00000189 
    00002035
                                                               0000596F 
    0000596F
    MCC_KERNEL_INIT MCC_KERNEL_INITIALIZE             163      00000027 
    000059A3
                                                               0000594A 
    0000594A
    %MCC-E-FINDUSYM, failure finding universal symbol !AS in shareable
    image !AS
    
    3. What future features pertaining to a distributed environment for 
    DECmcc, especially alarming and polycenter products, are being
    planned and for when?
    
    We would like to be able to run
    DECmcc in a cluster environment. Only one node will be responsible for
    polling for alarms, or running certain polycenter products. These
    alarms and notifications from polycenter products (VCS, watchdog) 
    will then be displayable on the different cluster nodes. The person
    should not have to log directly into the system where MCC is doing the
    polling, but should be able to start MCC on their machine ( a sattelite
    perhaps), call up MCC notification and receive the notifications events as
    defined in his/her notification requests.
    
    
    
    Thanks in advance,
    
    Julie Ann
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4262.1SET DISPLAY for a clustah!JUNG::GALVINMic, MCC...while you wait!Wed Dec 16 1992 11:3721
    Julie Ann,
    	Hi.  I can't answer all your questions, however, I can answer the
    one related to the "clustered environment..."  As for bringing up the
    Iconic Map on a satellite in (I'm assuming, MIVc or LAVc) the cluster,
    this is pretty simple.  Just do the following at your satellite.
    
    julie ann:  SET DISPLAY/CREATE/NODE='the_node_you're_on'/TRANS=DECNET
    Then just type the usual command for starting the IMPM...  I currently
    have a CLIENT/SERVER setup, and what I do, from the 'display station',
    is set host to the SERVER (where MCC is installed), and as part of my
    process, I submit a batch job that includes the above SET DISPLAY
    command, and points to the CLIENT nodename.
    
    Hope this helps...
    
    /Mic
    
    PS.  I would venture that Notification Services is a Function Module,
    and NO you can't just start up the Notification Services without the
    IMPM, but that's a guess...  The way MCC changes... *perhaps* it's a
    new feature...smile.  I'm *only* running V1.2 8^).
4262.2TOOK::MCPHERSONpre-retinal integrationWed Dec 16 1992 11:4814
You can't run the Notification Services without the Iconic Map PM.  Sorry,
that's just a limitation right now.   That limitation may change in a future
release, but not in V1.3.   (That's one of the reasons that it's called
"Notifcation Services" and *NOT* "Notification PM", although it looks, smells
and acts like a special-purpose PM, doesn't it?   ;^)   )

The Notification FM is the FM that is responsible for handling all of the
notification for alarm rule firings and GETEVENTs for the various classes of
objects in given domains.  It does some pretty elaborate, sophisticated
creating, coordinating and processing of notification requests, either for the
FCL PM *or* the iconic Map PM.  


/dopug
4262.3NO SETHOSTCOL01::LUNTThu Dec 17 1992 05:1212
    Hello Mic,
    
    	Yes it is clear that one can set host to the MCC machine in the
    cluster and then do a set display. But that is not distributed in a
    cluster environment. I can set host from a cluster or non-cluster
    machine and do that. What I would like to know is the future plans to
    make MCC distributed, in that only one machine polls, but all machines
    running DECmcc can display the alarms, WITHOUT having to set host to
    the polling machine. That means, that the different DECmcc's must
    somehow be able to talk with one another.
    
    Julie Ann
4262.5NOTED!, did you say YUTES???JUNG::GALVINMic, MCC...while you wait!Thu Dec 17 1992 16:3911
    ... of course Erik *meant* NOTED::EMF_REQ, conference...yes?
    
    8^)
    
    Julie Anne, 
    
    	Again this is a guess...  I think you're talking about the
    infamous, " MULTIPLE DIRECTORs"  I've heard so much about...  as Erik
    has suggested, try the EMF_REQ conference it's much better at the
    "dream sequence"...smile.
    
4262.4Futures...TOOK::MINTZErik MintzThu Dec 17 1992 18:415
Some form of distribution is being planned for a future version of DECmcc,
but the plans are not yet solid.  If you have requirements for specific
distribution features, please let us know in the NOTED::EMF_REQ conference.

-- Erik
4262.6Yep, NOTED it isTOOK::MINTZErik MintzThu Dec 17 1992 18:426
Yep, I meant NOTED, and thorough the magic of notes, that's
what it says now :-)

Thanks,

-- Erik