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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

4257.0. "Reports setup problem" by CSC32::BEACH (Bill Beach, CSC/CS IISG) Tue Dec 15 1992 19:03

I am trying to help a customer set up mcc reports.  We got exporting set up
and working.  We got through the initialization  of cdd and datatrieve,
running only the dtr definitions for phase iv nodes.  Then when we tried
to pull either a line traffic report or a node traffic report, we don't get
anything created.  In the MCC_RTP_NODE4_NODE_TRAFFIC_DTR.LOG file we get
the error ELEMENT "NODE4_NODE_TRAFFIC_RPT" NOT FOUND IN DICTIONARY.
If I go into datatrieve and do a show element node4_node_traffic_rpt, it
shows me the procedure okay.  Everything is being done from the system account
and the CDD$DEFAULT logical is pointing to the proper database.  Any
ideas?

Thanks,

Bill Beach
IISG/TBU
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4257.1let me tell you about the REPORTER...JUNG::GALVINMic, MCC...while you wait!Wed Dec 16 1992 10:1148
    Bill,
    	I appreciate your problem...  I've been struggling with the
    REPORTER for a while now and I'll share a couple of things to look
    into...
    
    (in no certain order)
    
    You didn't mention what 'entities' you were trying to report on, so
    I'll assume you did what I did at first...
                                        
    First of all, ensure that your EXPORTER background process is pointing
    to a *real* .RDB database.  In otherwords, when you submit your
    EXPORTER background process, /PARAM='database.rdb'.  You can type, SHOW
    USERS/FULL and see the subprocess of your EXPORTER background proces...
    
    Next you need to (from the IMPM) click once on the entity you want to 
    export, say a NODE4 (VAX system); next, click and drag the
    OPERATIONS menu; next type EXPORT.  When the menu comes up type, the
    directory and filename, ie:  disk$:[exporter]database.rdb;
    
    At this point, you have setup the EXPORTER for all entities, JUST for
    the NODE4!, ie:  COUNTERS, CHARACTERISTICS, etc.  Next you have to
    double click on the NODE4, click once on the CHILD ENTITI(ES) you want
    to EXPORT and repeat the process...  for example, if you want to export
    data about a particular line you'll need to click on the actual line
    and then repeat the export process.
    
    That takes care of the EXPORTER part.  Now you need to play with this a
    little because, the traffic in your area, the size of your
    configuration, the load on your server, etc.  play a factor!  See my
    note about RWMBX, 4009!
    
    Now when it comes to the REPORTER....huuummm.  What you'll want to do
    is ensure that the LINE SPEED for ROUTERS, has been set...  use the
    DECNET address instead of the nodename, and remember that REPORTER
    prints 132, so you'll need to have a LANDSCAPE-able printer...  
    
    If you run into more problems, please send mail to Mic JUNG::GALVIN. 
    I've been working with the EXPORTER/REPORTER for the past month... 
    I've got all kinds of GOOD/BAD news...  by the way, the REPORTER does
    NOT support LANbridge 200s, but does support DECNIS bridge/routers, as
    NODE (Phase V) entities...smile.
    
    Hope this helps you get by the *trauma* I've been through in the past
    month...smile.
    
    /Mic
     
4257.2 More background infoBSS::R_SCHMITTWed Dec 16 1992 12:3319
    Hi Mic,
    
    I am the guy in the field that the author of the base note is trying to
    assist. I understand about setting up the exporter for the node and the
    line and the circuit thanks to Bill's help however the real issue is
    that when  I try to create a report for the node I get the message in
    the mcc_rpt_node4_node_traffic_dtr.log file "element
    node4_node_traffic_rpt " not found in dictionary. I get the same
    type of message when trying to create a report for the line i.e.
    mcc_rpt_node4_line_traffic_dtr contains "node4_node_line_traffic_rpt"
    not found in dictionary. When you run datatrieve and show for example
    node4_node_traffic_rpt it shows a lengthy procedure so this means that 
    the proper elemnets are defined in the dictionary but when  the report
    creation procedure is run it doesnt see these elements. I even tried to
    run the .com procedures again to redefine the phase iv elements which
    ran succesfully but no luck. The owner of the exporter queue is system
    and all submits to the queue and exporting from MCC is done by system.
    
    Regards, Bob Schmitt
4257.3Does this help?JUNG::GALVINMic, MCC...while you wait!Thu Dec 17 1992 17:1367
    
    Bob,
    
    Well, since I've opened Pandora's Box...smile.
    
    I can't remember the EXACT error message(s) you describe, but here's a
    few things to look for:
    
    	Make sure that the database is the same in DTR, EXPORTER
    background process (ie:  /PARAM='database') and the exact database
    name.  So, if you do:
    
    		$ DTR SHOW MCC_EXPORT;
    		
    	You'll see:  DATABASEABC.RDB	! the proper directory structure.
    
    	When you look at your export:
    
    		MCC> SHOW EXPORT NODE4 'blah' EXPORT
    	TARGET='directory':DATABASEABC.RDB
    
    	You'll see: DATABASEABC.RDB	!check the menu items
    
    Menu items I look for are obvious:  ACTIVE, SUCCESSFUL POLLS, etc.
    
    	When you look at the actual file, it should be increasing over a
    period of time...
    
    		$ DIR/SIZ 'directory':DATABASEABC.RDB	1000000	! I jest!
    
    	Now I ran into an interesting problem with DECROUTERS; I had to set
    the LINE SPEED for the ports I was exporting data on, may or may not be
    applicable.
    
    	When you use the REPORTER you might want to try using the DECnet
    Address instead of the NODENAME;  I use OPTIONS 2 & 11 for line traffic
    on a DECROUTER 2000.  This gives me a report on BANDWIDITH UTILIZATION
    and a nice GRAPH.
    
    	Of course, you need to recognize the ultimate CAVEAT!  The REPORTER
    is simply a "SAMPLE", and it's not to be all inclusive...smile.  Not
    being much of a DATATRIEVE or Rdb expert, I tend to rely on it
    *exclusively*, if you know what I mean...
    
    	In the REPORTER Use book, you need to remember it states that when
    you change databases, you'll need to redefine your MCC_EXPORT logical
    in DTR.  This one bit me a couple of times.  Most of all you have to
    appreciate the *complexity* of the EXPORTER, when you fire up several
    exports, I have a command procedure I use to do them, look at what it
    does to your system...it's quite *impressive*!  The subprocesses that
    are doing the writing, polling, etc. take LOTS of CPU!  
    
    	I've scrapped things about 4 times, and finally have gotten to the
    point where I'm using EXPORTER � REPORTER for 11 DECROUTER 2000s, and
    leaving well enough alone for the time being...  I haven't touched the
    IMPM for 2 days!
    
    	I'm sure I've seen your Datatrieve Message before, but I can't
    quite place...
    
    	Please send me mail, Mic JUNG::GALVIN if I can help...  I'm
    learning along with everyone else, and this conference has been
    excellent!
    
    /Mic
    
    
4257.4same prob, any solution??CTHQ::WOODCOCKThu Mar 04 1993 10:348
greetings,

Was the error in .0 every resolved? I'm currently at a customer site and
getting the exact error and symptoms. Nothing 'appears' to be setup incorrect
but obviously I've missed something.

any help appreciated,
brad...