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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

4159.0. "DECmcc/VMS and DNS V2.0 server" by CHILKA::JAGGI () Fri Nov 27 1992 11:35

We have the following customer situation :

o A customer managing its Wide Area Network based on CISCO, but mainly 
  routing DECnet Phase IV trafic.
o The whole network is going to be managed by DECmcc, running today VMS 5.5-2,
  therefore running Phase IV DECnet with DNS repository.
o Phase V network migration will take place later.
o We have to design and implement now the Entreprise namespace, so we have
  few questions concerning DECmcc :

a) As with DECnet/OSI for VMS, we have DECdns V2.0, the MCC_DNS_SETUP.COM 
   procedure will not work since it's written in syntax DNS 1.1.
   If we are creating the namespace directories needed by DECmcc with
   the DECnet/OSI procedures, is DECmcc V1.2 able to work on top of
   this V2.0 namespace?

b) As DECnet/OSI for VMS will allow only NCL management (CMIP), is DECmcc
   still capable of managing Phase IV nodes (NICE) using the phase IV tower ?

c) What is the best option :
   - starting with DECdns V 1.1 and migrate the whole namespace at a later
     stage to DECdns V 2.0 ? (conversion problems with ACEs !!!)
   - starting with DECdns V 2.0 and setup up all namespace using the
     DECnet/OSI for VMS procedures ?


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4159.1TOOK::PURRETTAMon Nov 30 1992 11:0225
a) As with DECnet/OSI for VMS, we have DECdns V2.0, the MCC_DNS_SETUP.COM 
   procedure will not work since it's written in syntax DNS 1.1.
   If we are creating the namespace directories needed by DECmcc with
   the DECnet/OSI procedures, is DECmcc V1.2 able to work on top of
   this V2.0 namespace?

William Kwak has agreed to answer this question shortly.

b) As DECnet/OSI for VMS will allow only NCL management (CMIP), is DECmcc
   still capable of managing Phase IV nodes (NICE) using the phase IV tower ?

Yes, the DECmcc access modules for DECnet phase IV and V will work in either
environment.  When running on a host which is phaseV, the modules use
phaseIV compatibility mode to get the request delivered.

c) What is the best option :
   - starting with DECdns V 1.1 and migrate the whole namespace at a later
     stage to DECdns V 2.0 ? (conversion problems with ACEs !!!)
   - starting with DECdns V 2.0 and setup up all namespace using the
     DECnet/OSI for VMS procedures ?

I would say your best approach is to start with DECdns V 2.0.  I see no
reason why you should put yourself through another migration if you don't
need to.

4159.2Answer to question a) in .0TRM::KWAKMon Nov 30 1992 13:5342
    
    RE: question a) in .0
    
    DECmcc provides a command procedure (mcc_dns_setup.com) to create
    directories that MCC uses and the DECnet requires.
    DNS V1.1 does not provide tools to directories required by DECnet
    (e.g. .DNA_BackTranslation and .DNA_NodeSynonym).
    
    I think DNS V2.0 (which is included in DECnet/OSI) includes
    some tools to create the directories required for the DECnet
    management. You need to use the tools included in DECnet/OSI to
    create DECnet directories.
    
    In order to use DECmcc with DNS and to manage DECnet Phase4, you need 
    to make sure the following directories exist:
    	.DNA_BackTranslation
    	.DNA_NodeSynonym
           
    And following directories are required to use MCC and to manage other 
    entities:
    	.MCC			(MCC director - required for all MCC)
    	.MCC_SNMP_Backtranslation		(for SNMP)
    	.MCC_Station_Backtranslation		(for Station)
    	.MCC_Terminal_Server_Backtranslation	(for Terminal Server)
    	.MCC_Bridge_Backtranslation		(for Bridge)
    	.MCC_Concentrator_Backtranslation	(for Concentrator)
    	.MCC_Sample_Backtranslation		(for Sample AM in Toolkit)
    
    You can use simple DNS V2.0 DNS$Control commands to create the
    MCC directories (or you may use DECnet/OSI DNS tools to create these
    directories?):
    	DNS> create dir .MCC
    	DNS> create dir .MCC_SNMP_BackTranslation
    		.
    		.
    		.
    
    
    
    DECmcc V1.2 works with V2.0 DNS namespace (V2.0 DNS server).
    
    William
4159.3DNS v2.0 is faster than old versionTOOK::A_MOOREWed Dec 02 1992 09:1313
DNS V2.0 on VMS is faster than the older version.  Maybe 
15%.  

The namespace conversion is tricky due to stricter 
security.  Read the DECnet manual conversion section 
carefully, if you convert to avoid being locked out 
of the namespace.

To use DECmcc to manage a phase IV system from4 a 
DECnet OSI node you must register the phase IV nodes with
fullname, synomym and ADDRESS.

Al