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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

4100.0. "Continuous DCL errors/ MCC<=>RSM ???" by AITMCC::SYSTEM () Tue Nov 17 1992 13:22

    I have a vs3500 and am trying to get DECmcc to work. I have installed
    all the required layered products as well as inspect, decforms, and
    RSM.The install guide (and the 10 trees of documentation) were followed
    to the letter all the system params were adjusted etc......
    
    However there are serious DCL problems.........
    
    I can type in or set a symbol for
    manage/enterprise/interface=decwindows
    
    however, when I try to bring up a window out of the mcc map under the
    application banner for Phase IV autoconfig it disappears w/ the dcl error 
    
    %DCL-W-NOQUAL, qualifiers not allowed - supply only verb and parameters
    \ENTER\ 
    
    We have installed the v1.2 kit, then blew it away( more times than I
    care to discuss) and installed the mandatory upgrade kit off of PPINC:: 
    same error. At one time we could actually get the Phase IV Autoconfig 
    windo to stay on the screen however when the  registration scripts ran 
    it was ALL DCL errors. The correct DCL tables are being referenced. I 
    believe it is either a conflict between RSM (they have a manage/enter 
    command), or something else. We located the MCC command file for this 
    and when you run it  w/ or w/o set veriy it is _all_ errors. Is this 
    an incompatability w/ RSM  ? 
    
    Any ideas.....? I presume the command files for mcc work (or there
    would be a few related notes in here, and I do not see them.....)
    
    Any input is greatly appreciated....
     
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4100.1Does MANAGE/ENTERPRISE work in the registration command file?TOOK::FIGWERUlla Figwer LKG2-2/T2 x226-7858Wed Nov 18 1992 13:5828
    
    Hello,
    
    It looks like you may have discovered a conflict.  If so,
    that explains why you encountered DCL errors when executing
    the Autoconfiguration registration command file.  It would
    not explain why your Autoconfiguration DECterm went away.
    
    If you edit the Autoconfiguration registration command file
    (mcc_<domain>_registration.com in the working directory 
    for the domain) to read "$ MANAGE/ENTERPRISE" rather than
    "$ MANAGE/ENTER" and then choose the "Registration Only"
    option for that domain do you get better results?
    
    Please let us know.  If so, I will file a QAR which states
    that the registration command file should be generated with
    the full MANAGE/ENTERPRISE command.  And does the DECterm
    stay around?
    
    In the future, it is possible to gather Autoconfiguration data
    as a separate step from registration.  Choose the "Discovery Only"
    option.  Once discovery is complete, you can follow the same
    steps as outlined above to register the nodes found.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Ulla Figwer
    
4100.2no different.......CSDNET::DICASTROjet ski jockeyWed Nov 18 1992 14:3516
    
    
    
    Ulla, thank you for your input....
    
    I edited sys$sysroot:[sysmgr.dna4.lmo]mcc_lmo__registration.com
    to say manger/enterprise, however it then failed on 
    \enterprise\ then \on\ then \on\ then \register\ etc.....
    
    The aoutoconfig window gets 3 or 4 dcl errors before it disappears.
    I have been trying to see what the other are, but cant keep it on 
    the screen long enough. Any other ideas ?
    
    There are a slew of other command files that fail, I will get a list
    and post it, this is unusual.....
    Your help is appreciated/
4100.3found the offending command file(s)AITMCC::SYSTEMWed Nov 18 1992 15:1043
Here is what causes the autoconfig windows to disappear, I found the .com
file. 

AITMCC_MGR>@AITMCC$DUA1:[MCC]MCC_IP_AUTOCONFIG.COM;2

        Welcome to IP Autoconfiguration

        Type '?' for Help or 'Q' to Quit, at any of the prompts.


        Checking the namespace.  This will take a moment.  Please wait...
%DCL-W-NOQUAL, qualifiers not allowed - supply only verb and parameters
 \ENTER\
%DCL-W-IVKEYW, unrecognized keyword - check validity and spelling
 \MCC\
%DCL-W-IVKEYW, unrecognized keyword - check validity and spelling

Then *POOF* the window is gone
or :

AITMCC_MGR>@MCC_WAN4_AUTOCONFIG.COM;4

        Welcome to DECnet Phase IV Autoconfiguration

        Type '?' for Help or 'Q' to Quit, at any of the prompts.


        Checking the namespace.  This will take a moment.  Please wait...
%DCL-W-NOQUAL, qualifiers not allowed - supply only verb and parameters
 \ENTER\
%DCL-W-IVKEYW, unrecognized keyword - check validity and spelling
 \MCC\
%DCL-W-IVKEYW, unrecognized keyword - check validity and spelling
 \MCC\

same difference, unable to keep the window on the screen. In reference to the
basenote and the previous note regrding DCL, at one time this autoconfig
window would stay open however ALL the registration scripts failed w/ DCL
errors.

any more ideas  ?
Thank you

4100.4Edit the two .COM files as well: MANAGE/ENTERPRISETOOK::FIGWERUlla Figwer LKG2-2/T2 x226-7858Wed Nov 18 1992 18:1625
    
    Hmmm.... I'm still surprised that the window disappears (and
    even more surprised that at one time it did not), but I
    believe there is a similar workaround to get by this
    problem.
    
    If in fact there is a conflict with the command MANAGE/ENTER
    (which it seems there is) then the Autoconfiguration scripts
    will fail because they also issue the MANAGE/ENTER command
    (in addition to the registration command files).  This
    is just what you are seeing.
    
    If you edit MCC_IP_AUTOCONFIG.COM and MCC_WAN4_AUTOCONFIG.COM
    (in MCC_COMMON) and replace MANAGE/ENTER with MANAGE/ENTERPRISE
    (one instance per file) the scripts should work.
    
    Better yet, you could disable prefix checking by editing both scripts
    and commenting out the line "GOSUB check_prefixes".  (There are some
    cases where this is advisable, for instance if DNS$CONTROL program
    is not present on your system.)
    
    Hope this helps!               
    
    Ulla
    
4100.5Filed as QAR 00197 in MCC013_INTTOOK::FIGWERUlla Figwer LKG2-2/T2 x226-7858Wed Nov 18 1992 18:433
    
    Filed as QAR 00197 in MCCO13_INT
    
4100.6Maybe it's as simple as RTRNTOOK::STRUTTManagement - the one word oxymoronTue Nov 24 1992 10:378
    Is it possible that you installed RSM after DECmcc and did not 
    follow the procedure outlined in the DECmcc release notes that
    covers this case?
    
    DECmcc and RSM share the same DCL verb - MANAGE
    You need to update the DCL tables (refer to the DECmcc release notes
    for the exact procedure), to allow MANAGE/ENTERPRISE to be
    recognised as a command to invoke DECmcc.
4100.7AITMCC::SYSTEMTue Nov 24 1992 14:0317
    
    I'm the system manager working this issue with BOb DICastro. I updated
    the DCL tables using the procedure in the MCC release notes and
    that did not help.  I went as far as rebuilding the entire system
    from scratch and the problem reappeared.  The workaround I used to
    fix it was to setup a global symbol named MCC_DCL_FIX :== MANAGE/ENTER
    Then I had to edit all the files in MCC_COMMON:*.COM and modify the
    MANAGE/ENTER to MCC_DCL_FIX and it works fine.
       
    The kit we are using was created using RSM however the MCCBMS012
    was the last product installed.  I know that RSM and MCC use the 
    same verb, but I can't figure out why MANAGE/ENTER and
    MANAGE/ENTERPRISE fail to work.
    
    Mark OToole
    X296-5247