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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

4054.0. "Can DECmcc be a 'sub' manager" by PCONE1::hampton () Sun Nov 08 1992 21:51

Is DECmcc able to be managed by another Manager of Managers. (excluding
management via NETmaster.  This would require a facility to pass on 
information to a higher level manager after filtering and processing.

Bruce


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4054.1Absolutely.TOOK::MCPHERSONpre-retinal integrationMon Nov 09 1992 08:5323
>Is DECmcc able to be managed by another Manager of Managers. (excluding
>management via NETmaster.  This would require a facility to pass on 
>information to a higher level manager after filtering and processing.


Certainly.  All you're talking about is development of a PM specific to your
management system.  PMs (by definition) handle user interaction with the
management system and the system makes no distiction between carbon-based users
(humanoids) and silicon-based users (management systems or applications).

All you have to do is develop an agent PM that 

	1) understands your "super manager's" management protocol
	2) is able to request the services of the MMs on the DECmcc system
	   (e.g. by issuing the appropriate requests across the mcc_call
	   interface, decoding the results, re-encoding them in the
	   'super-manager' protocol and returning the info.

Not something you'd do over the weekend, but certainly supported by the
architecture and the product (as witnessed by the Aetius folk's success).

/doug

4054.2Some ways already being looked atSKIBUM::GASSMANMon Nov 09 1992 16:1410
    There is no standards in this area, although there are some emerging
    ones.  The SNMP V2 protocol has a manager to manager MIB in it, which
    among other things allows one manager to request an alarm from another
    manager when something occurs.  There are some things in CMIP that
    allow manager to manager to occur when things are very well specified.
    In a pinch, a script file can be used to send off a SNMP trap to
    another manager (although you need to find some code to send the trap
    and write a mib defining your traps).
    
    bill
4054.3Network Management Forum works this way tooTOOK::STRUTTManagement - the one word oxymoronMon Nov 09 1992 16:367
    The Network Management Forum defines such an interworking. With an
    NMF AM, DECmcc can manage NMF-compliant managed objects. With an NMF
    Agent PM, DECmcc objects (that are supported by the PM) can be managed
    by management systems operating at the "higher level".
    
    This is, of course, quite consistent with the approach taken by the
    �tius project.
4054.4Is this a common requestADO75A::HAMPTONBruce Hampton - Open SystemsMon Nov 09 1992 16:435
    Thanks for all responses.  Has anyone else been asked about having
    DECmcc report up to something else e.g. HP or SUN.
    
    Bruce