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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
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Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

4014.0. "DECmcc under ULTRIX questions" by ZUR01::SCHNEIDERR () Tue Nov 03 1992 11:06

Hello , 

I have two questions:

- Will there be any TSAM and VITALINK AM under ULTRIX ?
  (We have a lot of customers here in Switzerland they go to ULTRIX, but we miss
   some important AM's)

- Whats the strategie for the future? Will there be more AM's and FM's for VMS or
  ULTRIX? Is the ULTRIX or VMS Version more pushed?

Roland
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4014.1It dependsTOOK::MINTZLKG2-2 near pole X3, cube 6072, dtn 226-5033Tue Nov 03 1992 12:0415
AMs and FMs for DECmcc (much like applications for an operating system)
are not developed in a central location.  That makes this question
a difficult one to answer.

The strategy of the framework developers is to provide support
for as many platforms as possible.  That includes equal support
for VMS and ULTRIX (the current platforms). It is then up to applications
developers (like the terminal server group for TSAM) to decide which platforms
they wish to support.

If you have a lot of customers requesting specific functions, please
get in touch with product management and let them know.
You could start with Dave (TOOK::) Aronson or Gail (DELNI::) Ferreira,
who should be able to point you to the right people for other products.

4014.2TOOK::FONSECAI heard it through the Grapevine...Wed Nov 04 1992 13:4614
What Erik would have liked to have said, but was too polite, is that
his group would be incredibly happy if my group (was called LAA, tommorow to
be called Private Networks) would come out with an Ultrix version of TSAM.
In fact in person most of the DECmcc framework folks are not above rubbing it in:
"Hey Dave when are you going to port TSAM to Ultrix huh? huh? <nudge> <nudge>"

At least for TSAM the way it works right now this is very unlikely.
It is very apparent to me, but not everyone in my management that
a TSAM-like follow on product would be very welcome, especially since
it could be designed from the ground up to be platform independant.
You might send your requests to Laurel BLUMON::Nelson, who is the product
manager for TSAM.

-Dave
4014.3Strike two...TOOK::MCPHERSONpre-retinal integrationWed Nov 04 1992 13:479
>
>- Will there be any TSAM and VITALINK AM under ULTRIX ?
>

Vitalink has NO PLANS to port the Vitalink AM to ULTRIX.   Recommended
alternative: use Vitalink's SNMP agents on the Vitalink boxes and then you can
manage them from DECmcc/ULTRIX using SNMP AM.

/doug
4014.4THANKSZUR01::SCHNEIDERRThu Nov 05 1992 04:0217
Thanks to you all for the replys,

Doug::	Yes I saw some reports about SNMP on the new Translan SW versions. The
      	disadvantage is, that we can't do "SET" to all the Translan parameters, at
     	the moment. But I hope that the functionality will reach up in the next
	verions.

Dave::	I will send a mail to Laurel. I see in the maket that the most of our 
	customers want to go to ULTRIX (What a shame for a VMS fan). I think
	it's a MUST for us to have TSAM for ULTRIX. Not only Erik would be happy,
	I think we all yould be happy.
	So "Hey Dave when are you going to port TSAM to Ultrix huh? huh? <nudge>
	<nudge>" :-)


Regards Roland

4014.5Ok. But...TOOK::MCPHERSONpre-retinal integrationThu Nov 05 1992 08:0721
>Doug::	Yes I saw some reports about SNMP on the new Translan SW versions. The
>      	disadvantage is, that we can't do "SET" to all the Translan parameters, at
>     	the moment. But I hope that the functionality will reach up in the next
>	verions.

    I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but don't hold your breath waiting
    for SNMP SETs from Vitalink (at least not on the TransLAN product
    line).    Even the VBAM doesn't allow you to set *everything*; i.e you
    still had to get to a console interface to do some of the TransLAN
    management.   

    Whichever route you choose (VBAM or SNMP), it would be a good idea to
    hack together a little launched application that will allow you to
    issue a console connect to a translan selected from the map (and then
    post your hack in the MCC-TOOLS conference! ;^) ).   This could be
    accomplished in a few different ways, left as an exercise for the
    student ;^).     If you have a console connect, then you can
    effectively plug any 'functionality holes' that exist in either the
    VBAM or SNMP (they both come up short, but in different areas).

    /doug