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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

3983.0. "NAT problems" by LUX01::TRINIANE () Wed Oct 28 1992 12:09

Anybody having some experience with NAT bridges ???.
We have two problems (with BMS1.2 and ELM on Ultrix 5100/33)

- using the private Nat MIB and the SMNP AM, we can't register them. 
   The registration has succeeded with CISCO and Cabletron

- the ELM modules doesn't see them, it has detected the Dec and the VITALINK 
   but not the NAT bridges.

Any help would be appreciated.

Regards

Pierre
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3983.1SLINK::CHILDSEd ChildsThu Oct 29 1992 10:366
    I've never heard of NAT bridges.  They definitely will not use
    Digital's proprietary RBMS protocol, so DECmcc ELM will not be able to
    access them.

    Do NAT bridges have SNMP agents?  What MIBs do they support?  You'll
    have to look at the bridge documentation to find out.
3983.2ELM FM Spann.Tree auto-detection ??ZTOIS1::VISTARenato VISTA, SIS Strasbourg, FranceMon Nov 02 1992 09:5418
    
    Hi Ed,
    
    I'm working with Pierre on the second part of the problem. 
    You're right, NAT bridges are only managed via SNMP Access Module.
    
    Our problem is how the ELM Functional Module (ie STP Listener process)
    works. It detects DEC bridges and VITAlink bridges, but not NAT bridges
    which are in the same topology (same Spanning Tree algorithm).
    
    Is the STP process auto-configuration principle based on Spanning Frames
    exchanged between all the bridges (DEC, VITALINK, NAT...) ? Which
    version (DEC STP or/and IEEE 802.1d) ?
    
    Regards,
    Renato
    
    
3983.3SLINK::CHILDSEd ChildsMon Nov 02 1992 11:334
| Is the STP process auto-configuration principle based on Spanning Frames
| exchanged between all the bridges (DEC, VITALINK, NAT...) ?

    No, the listener find bridges by listening for MOP SYSIDs.
3983.4YAHEY::BOSEMon Nov 02 1992 14:279
>>- using the private Nat MIB and the SMNP AM, we can't register them. 
>>   The registration has succeeded with CISCO and Cabletron

	The question is can you ping the nat box from the system running
	DECmcc? If you can, then registration should be successful. Note
	that partial registration can occur if the SNMP AM cannot find an
	internet name for the specific device from the domain name server.

	Rahul.