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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

3963.0. "RMON what will it provide ?" by JOCKEY::GREENR (Curiosity Killed The Cat) Mon Oct 26 1992 09:58

       I have some questions with regards to MCC and RMON support:
    
        1/  My customer wishes to produce stats on various ethernet lans
    that
        he has within his extended lan. He wishes to be able to produce
    reports
        and ideally alarms when thresholds exceeded for the following:
            a/ Ethernet Utilisation
            b/ Ethernet Util by Protocol type and Node address
            c/ Etherent Collision/Error states
            d/ TDR for reflections etc
            e/ Electrical levels
    
        Can a POD that supports RMON and MCC give me the above, if so can
        anyone recommend a POD manufacturer/telephone no. for my customer.
                                       
    
    
    			ta in advance,
    
    				Ross
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3963.1TEC has an AM for their NetPods.TOOK::MCPHERSONpre-retinal integrationMon Oct 26 1992 10:0813
>        Can a POD that supports RMON and MCC give me the above, if so can
>        anyone recommend a POD manufacturer/telephone no. for my customer.

Yeah. Call Technically Elite Concepts. Their sales guy is Jake McGarrity.  
Tell him I sent you.  ;^)

/doug

		Technically Elite Concepts
		2615 Pacific Coast Highway
		Hermosa Beach, CA 90254
		Phone:	(310) 379-2505
		FAX : 	(310) 379-5985
3963.2Technically Elite Concepts PODS really SNMPJOCKEY::GREENRCuriosity Killed The CatMon Oct 26 1992 11:407
    Doug,
    	Are the Technically Elite Concepts PODS really SNMP, I thought
    they were proprietary Network Professor pods. 
    
    				ta,
    
    				Ross
3963.3Statistics supported by DECmcc 1.3 (via PA & SNMP)NANOVX::ROBERTSKeith Roberts - Network Management ApplicationsMon Oct 26 1992 15:3125
  I just finished adding the following statistics for SNMP Experimental and
  Standard RMON:

   	Count of Total Bytes
   	Count of Drop Events
   	Network Utilization
   	Count of Total Packets
   	Multicast Throughput
   	Broadcast Throughput
   	Count of CRC Align Errors
   	Percent Packets 64 Octets
   	Percent Packets 65 to 127 Octets
   	Percent Packets 128 to 255 Octets
   	Percent Packets 256 to 511 Octets
   	Percent Packets 512 to 1023 Octets
   	Percent Packets 1024 to 1518 Octets
   	Count of Collisions
   	Count of Jabbers
   	Count of Fragments
   	Count of Undersize Packets
   	Count of Oversize Packets
   	Bad Packets
   	Packet Rate

  /keith
3963.4Additional comments RE: RMON and V1.3CHRISB::BRIENENNetwork Management Applications!Tue Oct 27 1992 18:1844
   RE: base note

>   I have some questions with regards to MCC and RMON support:
>    
>    1/  My customer wishes to produce stats on various ethernet lans that
>    he has within his extended lan. He wishes to be able to produce reports
>    and ideally alarms when thresholds exceeded for the following:
>        a/ Ethernet Utilisation

   Network Utilization is available (see 3963.3), which means you can
   set an Alarm threshold and graph this (and other) statistic(s) in
   MCC.
	

>        b/ Ethernet Util by Protocol type and Node address

   The RMON MIB does not support storage of ANY Protocol type information
   (though a POD could support this with its own MIB).

   RMON does associate octet and packet counters with source/destination
   address pairs. We do not calculate Utilization numbers for these pairs,
   and don't add up all the packet numbers for a given source address
   to generate a "Util by ... Node address". 	

>        c/ Etherent Collision/Error states

   Count of Ethernet Collisions and Error Percent (Bad Packets) are two
   calculations done for DECmcc V1.3.

>        d/ TDR for reflections etc
>        e/ Electrical levels

   RMON does not provide the information for TDR and levels...

   RE: REPORTS...
   -----------
   There are no special Reports that are provided with DECmcc V1.3
   to present the Statistics we calculate from RMON data.

   If all goes well, you'll see snazzy RMON (and LTM/944) reports
   in DECmcc V1.4...

						Chris Brienen

3963.5You need more than just RMON, TEC will do itKAJUN::NELSONWed Oct 28 1992 13:5810
re: .2

TEC's pod does use a proprietary protocol at the moment.  They are 
adding RMON support as we speak.  Also, as Chris mentioned in the 
previous note, RMON does not support all of the statistics you want.  
Using the TEC solution will give you all of the things you want.

Call Jake, as Doug mentioned in .1.  Tell him I sent you %^)

...kjn
3963.6What kind of data does TEC provide ?MOLAR::ROBERTSKeith Roberts - Network Management ApplicationsWed Oct 28 1992 17:309
    The RMON support which I added to PA was necessary because RMON
    statistical data is actually just counters.  PA processes the counter
    data to produce statistics.

    Does the 'TEC solution' *really* give you statistics?  or just more
    counters.  If it is just counters, we have no user-defined method of
    adding statistical calculations; PA is hard-coded via intricate tables.
    
    /keith