Conference azur::mcc

    
    Hello Christine,
    
    If you are referring to the DEMPR and DESPR icons available
    in the toolbox to represent DOMAINs, I see the same behavior
    you do.  In the toolbox they appear as circles, but when
    placed on the map they are surrounded by a box.
    
    Perhaps they are surrounded by a box to make them look more like
    all the other icons which are rectangular in shape, or to 
    make them more visible.
    
    Regards,
    
    Ulla
    
    P.S.  I do not have a copy of the Director Use manual handy.  In
    the picture you see, are the icons circular in the map window, or
    only in the toolbox?  If they are circular in the map window too,
    then we have a bug in the documentation.  Please let us know
    if that is the case.  Thanks.
    
    

>>    P.S.  I do not have a copy of the Director Use manual handy.  In
>>    the picture you see, are the icons circular in the map window, or
>>    only in the toolbox?  If they are circular in the map window too,
>>    then we have a bug in the documentation.  Please let us know
>>    if that is the case.  Thanks.
    
  The icons are circular on a 'Add entity window'. No iconic map is shown 
  for this example. But when the customer saw circular icons, he thought 
  that he could create some circular ones as explained on page 3-34. 
  So he really think there is a trick to get rid off the square around. 
  If it's not the   case, the manual shouldn't show circular icons at all.

  The question is how did those two icons on page 3-35 (DEMPR and DESPR)
  get created?

  regards,
  Christine

    With the exception of the 'stretchy icons' (line, square, circle),
    *ALL* of the icons are defined by rectangular spaces.  They are all
    (again, with the exception of the 'stretchy icons') simply X-11 bitmap
    files. An X-11 bitmap file ALWAYS defines an area that is "X" pixels
    wide x "Y" pixels high.  There is no getting around this.   You are
    entirely free to draw a circle *within* a 40x40 pixel square, but it
    will *always* exist on a background that is 40x40. The 'stretchy icons'
    are special, in that they are actuall graphic objects (i.e. they can be
    stretched, resized, etc) as opposed to the static X-11 bitmaps used for
    all of the other icon representations.

    I find it interesting that you can actually *see* the square
    background...  This is odd.   (Maybe someone from the IMPM group can
    comment on this.... I *thought* that the icon background would match
    the background of the map and therefore appear 'invisible'.   At least
    it would appear that way until you tried to connect a line to it at
    anything other than a 90 degree angle.  Then the line would be occluded
    by the portions of the (heretofore invisible) square background....

    If you want to put a circlular icon on the map and have it appear
    *truly* as a circle (without the problems I described above) then you
    should select the circular stretchy icon from lower left portion of the
    window that pops up when you select the class of entity that you want
    to put on the map.   The Iconic Map will the use the stretchy circular
    icon, instead of the static X-11 bitmap representation.

    Regarding your question about how the icons got created:   If the icons
    were *real* (i.e. not simply fabricated by a tech writer for
    illustrative purposes) then they were created by  

    a) picking a stretchy icon and 'decorating' it with the 'text' tool
       from the iconic map toolbox, or 

    b) using am X-11 Bitmap editor (e.g. decw$examples:bitmap.exe) or 
       or DECpaint

    regards
    /doug

Hello,

Thank you for your explanations.

I tried to create a strechy icon (a circle) but I only get the four points
(to resize it) and not the line that actually makes the circle.

Regards,
Christine 

>
>I tried to create a strechy icon (a circle) but I only get the four points
>(to resize it) and not the line that actually makes the circle.
>

Some things to check:

	Check line width (in the toolbox options) , select a nice wide one and
	try again.

	Can you draw *any* lines?

	What is your line color set to?

	
Can you draw a *box* or *line* stretchy icon ?

/doug

Thank you the line color was set to white.

Christine