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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
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Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

3670.0. "iconic map crashes when using graph" by HLFS00::TIMMERMANS_A () Wed Sep 02 1992 09:31

    
The iconic map crashes when graphing recorded statistical data with an 
absolute scope of interest time.
It starts the graph, but if one poll have been missed by recoding the graph
stops, after continuing it by the "hand or arrow symbol" icon the map crashes 
with the following exception:
 
%CMA-F-EXCCOP, exception raised; VMS condition code follows
-SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual address=0000003A,
PC
=00012185, PSL=0BC00000
%TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows
module name     routine name                     line       rel PC    abs PC

                                                           0004B8C4  0004B8C4
                                                           0007C782  0007C782
                                                           000775DC  000775DC
                                                           0007AC78  0007AC78

I am running the SSB v1.2 kit, is this a known problem??
Is it supported to use the graph option on historical data??

Adrie Timmermans
    
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3670.1QAR 3407TOOK::MINTZErik Mintz, dtn 226-5033Wed Sep 02 1992 10:041
I have entered this note as QAR 3407
3670.2Some more details please, we can graph historical data.TOOK::A_MOOREWed Sep 02 1992 17:1821
Adrie,

This problem has not been seen before.  We have graphed historical data without
problems.

So we need to find out what is different about what you graphed.  So more 
questions.

1.   Would you MB1 click on the little man icon to display the error that caused
	 the graph to stop?

2.   What data were you graphing? If is a uncommon access module what was the 
	data type? 

3.   What was the exact time spec used. Did it cross the current now time?

4.   Using the same time spec can you do show command on the same data?

5.    How much data was recorded over the time span?

Al
3670.3the answers.HLFS00::TIMMERMANS_AThu Sep 03 1992 09:25202
Re:2

>>>1.   Would you MB1 click on the little man icon to display the error that
	caused the graph to stop?

The error is:
Statistics requires two counter samples; fewer returned.

>>>2.   What data were you graphing? If is a uncommon access module what was
	the data type?

Node4 packet rate.

>>>3.   What was the exact time spec used. Did it cross the current now time?

I am using the absolute scope of interest time from 14-aug-1992 --->21-aug-1992
No, it didn't cross the current time spec.

>>>4.   Using the same time spec can you do show command on the same data?

This the output from the fcl on the show command:
$ mcc
DECmcc (V1.2.0)

MCC> show node4 utrnet packet rate,-
_MCC> for start = 14-aug-1992:00:00:00 every = 01:00:00 duration = 01:00:00 -
_MCC> until = 21-aug-1992:00:00:00, in domain rotterdam

Node4 utrnet
AT 14-AUG-1992 01:00:00 Statistics

                            Packet Rate = 4.000000E-02 Packets/Sec
                             
Node4 utrnet
AT 14-AUG-1992 02:00:00 Statistics

                            Packet Rate = 4.000000E-02 Packets/Sec

Node4 utrnet
AT 14-AUG-1992 03:00:00 Statistics

                            Packet Rate = 4.000000E-02 Packets/Sec

Node4 utrnet
AT 14-AUG-1992 04:00:00 Statistics

                            Packet Rate = 4.000000E-02 Packets/Sec

Node4 utrnet
AT 14-AUG-1992 05:00:00 Statistics

                            Packet Rate = 4.000000E-02 Packets/Sec

Node4 utrnet
AT 14-AUG-1992 06:00:00 Statistics

                            Packet Rate = 4.000000E-02 Packets/Sec
 
Node4 utrnet
AT 14-AUG-1992 07:00:00 Statistics

                            Packet Rate = 4.000000E-02 Packets/Sec

Node4 utrnet
AT 14-AUG-1992 08:00:00 Statistics

                            Packet Rate = 6.000000E-02 Packets/Sec

Node4 utrnet
AT 14-AUG-1992 08:00:00 Statistics

Statistics requires two counter samples; fewer returned. <---- at this point
							 graph stops

Node4 utrnet
AT 14-AUG-1992 10:00:00 Statistics

                            Packet Rate = 6.000000E-02 Packets/Sec

It continues correctly till the following time
----------------------------------------------

Node4 utrnet
AT 14-AUG-1992 20:00:00 Statistics

Statistics requires two counter samples; fewer returned.

This messages repeats every 12 hours, the next one is at:

Node4 utrnet
AT 15-AUG-1992 08:00:00 Statistics

Statistics requires two counter samples; fewer returned.
  
I can't figure out what's causing this.

>>>5.    How much data was recorded over the time span?

This is the output from the show recording of the node:

MCC> show recording node4 utrnet part *, in domain rotterdam

Node4 utrnet
AT  3-SEP-1992 14:17:44

Recording parameters for the partition "Status" :
                        Recording state = ACTIVE,
                            State since =  1-JUL-1992 15:58:13.47,
                         Polling period = 0 01:00:00.00,
                             Begin time =  1-JUL-1992 15:57:52.71,
                               End time = 25-MAY-2012 00:00:00.00,
                               Keep age = 45 00:00:00.00,
                           Request time =  1-JUL-1992 15:57:52.71,
                           Requested by = "TIMMERMANS",
           Time of last successful poll = " 3-SEP-1992 13:40:47.03",
             Number of successful polls = 574,
               Time of last failed poll = "NONE",
               Last poll failure reason = "N/A",
                 Number of failed polls = 0,
        Last historical expiration time = " 3-SEP-1992 13:40:47.03",
        Time of last expiration failure = "NONE",
               Last poll failure reason = "N/A",
                 Number of failed polls = 0,
        Last historical expiration time = " 3-SEP-1992 13:40:47.03",
        Time of last expiration failure = "NONE",
         Last expiration failure reason = "Background recording process for
                                          this domain is not set up",
          Number of expiration failures = 0

Node4 utrnet
AT  3-SEP-1992 14:17:52

Recording parameters for the partition "Counters" :
                        Recording state = ACTIVE,
                            State since =  1-JUL-1992 15:57:50.94,
                         Polling period = 0 01:00:00.00,
                             Begin time =  1-JUL-1992 15:57:11.85,
                               End time = 25-MAY-2012 00:00:00.00,
                               Keep age = 45 00:00:00.00,
                           Request time =  1-JUL-1992 15:57:11.85,
                           Requested by = "TIMMERMANS",
           Time of last successful poll = " 3-SEP-1992 13:40:59.87",
             Number of successful polls = 731,
               Time of last failed poll = "NONE",
               Last poll failure reason = "N/A",
                 Number of failed polls = 0,
        Last historical expiration time = " 3-SEP-1992 13:40:59.87",
        Time of last expiration failure = "NONE",
         Last expiration failure reason = "Background recording process for
                                          this domain is not set up",
          Number of expiration failures = 0

Node4 utrnet
AT  3-SEP-1992 14:18:39

Recording parameters for the partition "Characteristics" :
                        Recording state = ACTIVE,
                            State since =  1-JUL-1992 15:58:37.12,
                         Polling period = 0 23:59:59.00,
                             Begin time =  1-JUL-1992 15:58:15.70,
                               End time = 25-MAY-2012 00:00:00.00,
                               Keep age = 45 00:00:00.00,
                           Request time =  1-JUL-1992 15:58:15.70,
                           Requested by = "TIMMERMANS",
           Time of last successful poll = " 2-SEP-1992 16:41:23.67",
             Number of successful polls = 33,
               Time of last failed poll = "NONE",
               Last poll failure reason = "N/A",
                 Number of failed polls = 0,
        Last historical expiration time = " 2-SEP-1992 16:41:23.67",
        Time of last expiration failure = "NONE",
         Last expiration failure reason = "Background recording process for
                                          this domain is not set up",
          Number of expiration failures = 0

Node4 utrnet
AT  3-SEP-1992 14:18:55

Recording parameters for the partition "Initial Attributes" :
                        Recording state = ACTIVE,
                            State since =  1-JUL-1992 15:59:07.39,
                         Polling period = 0 23:59:59.00,
                             Begin time =  1-JUL-1992 15:58:39.06,
                               End time = 25-MAY-2012 00:00:00.00,
                               Keep age = 45 00:00:00.00,
                           Request time =  1-JUL-1992 15:58:39.06,
                           Requested by = "TIMMERMANS",
           Time of last successful poll = " 2-SEP-1992 16:41:56.94",
             Number of successful polls = 30,
               Time of last failed poll = " 6-JUL-1992 23:21:20.28",
               Last poll failure reason = "MCC specialized exception code :335",
                 Number of failed polls = 3,
        Last historical expiration time = " 2-SEP-1992 16:41:56.94",
        Time of last expiration failure = "NONE",
         Last expiration failure reason = "Background recording process for
                                          this domain is not set up",
          Number of expiration failures = 0

Hope this helps,

Adrie Timmermans
    
3670.4statusTAV02::KALAISun Nov 01 1992 04:419
What is the status of this problem?

I have the same problem ,very consistently.
Only when I try to use graph on historical data,line syn-* error percent.
It is related to the error "statistics requires two counter samples;
fewer returned"
The same information with the same time spec work fine throw FCL.

3670.5Scope of interest time problem with paMOLAR::ROBERTSKeith Roberts - Network Management ApplicationsSun Nov 01 1992 10:0225
    If PA has a problem getting the statistical required counters, it
    simply returns the 'statistics requires two counter samples...' error. 
    For the next field test of v1.3, I have added a log bit to display any
    errors returned while reading the counter attributes.
    
    I have found that if you forget to specify a relative 'for start' time,
    then PA can only process statistics once.  Each subsequent output will
    have the 'statistics requires two counter samples...' error.
    
    So - if you type:
    
    	show <some-entity> all statistics, -
    	  for duration 00:00:25, at every 00:00:30
    
    it won't work .. but if you type
    
    	show <some-entity> all statistics, -
    	  for start +00:00:00 duration 00:00:25, at every 00:00:30
    
    it will work.
    
    I realize that this note has been talking about past time data, but
    there is probably something related here.
    
    Keith-the-lucky-stiff-to-be-assigned-pa-for-v1.3
3670.6Moved to MCC012_EXT, QAR 525TOOK::MINTZLKG2-2 near pole X3, cube 6072, dtn 226-5033Sun Nov 01 1992 13:243
There is no official answer to this QAR yet.  It has been moved
top the MCC012_EXT QAR database, QAR 525, so you can track the answer there
(see note 7 for instructions).
3670.7VERNA::V_GILBERTTue Dec 22 1992 09:5511
Thanks to the help received from Adrie Timmermans, we have been able to
determine what caused the Iconic Map to crash when graphing recorded statistical
data and to fix the problem.  

The problem occurs when the time spanned on the x-axis of a graph panel
exceeds 24 hours.  At that point it should be displayed as DD:HH (days:hours)
rather than HH:MM (hours:minutes) or MM:SS (minutes:seconds).

Currently the fix will be included in the Field Test Update kit for V1.3.

Verna