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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

3654.0. "IP Autoconfig Not Working" by MAIL::CLAYTON (Merlin Clayton DTN 445-7217) Sat Aug 29 1992 15:01

I have a customer with mcc v1.2 sbs installed on a vs3100/76 trying to do
IP autoconfig unsucessfully.

They have a relatively small IP network with only cabletron hubs and 
DECserver 300��s and 700s installed running SNMP agents.

They have no IP routers or domain name server in place.

The ip devices in their network are all registered in the UCX hosts file.

When doing autoconfig, they find only the local host which is set as the
GWY ip address.  I have tried setting permit commands and th host option
for thier network address range as follows:

	permit 190.1.0.0  255.255.0.0
	option -h
	host 190.1.0.0 255.255.0.0

nothing happens.  the result is always the same 1 node, 1 network, etc.

Can someone please help me understand what's going on so I can help resolve
this problem?

I really don't understand how IP autoconfig works even after reading through
the user's guide a couple of times.  A brief step by step tutorial may also
help.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks.

Merlin
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3654.1One thoughtTOOK::MINTZErik Mintz, dtn 226-5033Sun Aug 30 1992 01:306
I'm not an autoconfig expert, but since autoconfig expects to use SNMP
as its primary resource, you may want to try specifying one of the snmp
hosts as your starting point.

-- Erik
3654.2IP Autoconfig Still Does Not WorkMAIL::CLAYTONMerlin Clayton DTN 445-7217Thu Sep 10 1992 10:3929
According to the documentation, if there are no gateways (routers) in your
IP network you should use your own host as a starting point for autoconfig.

Will IP autoconfig work if there are no routers, or domain name servers in 
the network?

The UCX local host file has all of the IP addresses defined if that makes
a differences.

Could someone please give me a brief tutorial on how autoconfig works
relative to the config file?  I've read through autoconfig documentation, 
but it does not explain hos it works when it looks at the variable in the 
config file.  Maybe with that understanding, I could figure out what I'm 
doing wrong.

It's been over two weeks since I was on-site and first posted this note, 
and the customer is getting restless wanting some kind of answer. 

Could some that knows this please help?

BTW... My first call was to the CSC in CoSpgs.  They have absolutely NO
	idea what's going on or how to work with IP autoconfig.

Thanks.

Merlin
3654.3Host need an SNMP agentGWTEAL::WOESTEMEYERWhy??...Why not!!!Thu Sep 10 1992 14:4118
    Merlin,
    
    This is Steve Woestemeyer, I work at the CSC in Colorado Springs.  I
    don't know who you talked to about the IP autoconfig here, but I do
    have some knowledge about it.  In fact I may know what your problem is
    having fought it once myself.
    
    It seems that the IP autoconfig uses SNMP to query the selected host
    for it address translation table.  If the host selected deos not have
    an SNMP agent then all you get back is the address of the host. In the
    case I fought the host in question was the MCC station, running UCX
    V1.3.  This version of UCX does not have an SNMP agent so the SNMP AM
    cannot query the address translation tables. I have found that UCX
    V2.0, currently in field test, does have an SNMP agent and have used it
    successfully with the IP autoconfig.
    
    Steve Woestemeyer
    CSC/CS
3654.4UCX V2 is shippingTOOK::MINTZLKG2-2 near pole X3, cube 6072, dtn 226-5033Thu Sep 10 1992 15:504
I am told that UCX V2.0 has gone to SSB and is now shipping.

-- Erik