Title: | DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT. |
Notice: | Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187 |
Moderator: | TAEC::BEROUD |
Created: | Mon Aug 21 1989 |
Last Modified: | Wed Jun 04 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 6497 |
Total number of notes: | 27359 |
While attempting to register an Ethernet station, in this case, two PC's, under SSB V1.2 DECmcc for VMS, I noticed that none of the fields in the IMPM is marked with an asterisk indicating a mandatory field. Don't you always need to give MCC at least an Ethernet address to allow it to register a station? In a the case of the PC's both the ADDRESS and DECnet ADDRESS needed to be given since both were running Pathworks. An error was returned when I tried to register the station w/o entering any field...."must have address" or some such wording, so I knows what it needs, but no visual indicator exists! Al
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3440.1 | Not iconic map | BARREL::LEMMON | Wed Jul 29 1992 09:28 | 5 | |
The Iconic Map is driven off the dictionary. The station's management specification should have the "required value" definition if this field is indeed required. /Jim | |||||
3440.2 | FOUR62::LICAUSE | Al Licause (338-5661) | Wed Jul 29 1992 13:35 | 5 | |
Okay.....so it is not an IMPM problem. Anyone from the Data Dictionary or STATION AM group care to comment? Al | |||||
3440.3 | Why not just QAR it? | TOOK::GUERTIN | It fall down, go boom | Wed Jul 29 1992 15:29 | 8 |
How about if we just QAR that the ENET_AM Management Specification Service Interface state that the Address argument on a Register Directive have REQUIRED=TRUE? Although I wouldn't be surprised if that was intentionally done (for example to support partial registration). -Matt. | |||||
3440.4 | Expected Behavior | LINDAS::SZABIET | Wed Jul 29 1992 15:41 | 45 | |
The ADDRESS and ALTERNATE ADDRESS arguments for REGISTER STATION are intentionally optional. The Ethernet Station AM's management specification was changed several months ago to support 'partial registration'. One item included in this task was to change the definition of ADDRESS from required to optional. While the Ethernet AM needs the ADDRESS argument for the registration command to work (since it attempts to communicate with the entity), you can force partial registration (override this requirement) by entering the value 'PLAN' for the optional OPERATION argument: MCC> REGISTER STATION station_name OPERATION=PLAN note the value COMPLETE is the default for OPERATION. So this behavior is expected. Linda ======================================================================== Examples: --------- MCC> register station partial operation=plan Station MOLAR_NS:.partial AT 29-JUL-1992 14:17:43 Partial registration success. Only the registration name has been registered with MCC. MCC> register station partial_too Station MOLAR_NS:.partial_too AT 29-JUL-1992 14:18:06 Partial registration success. Please retry later to complete the registration. Reason for Partial Registration = Required Argument 'Address' is not supplied. MCC> | |||||
3440.5 | FOUR62::LICAUSE | Al Licause (338-5661) | Thu Jul 30 1992 09:17 | 21 | |
thanks for the explaination. I hate to read documentation unless forced and in this case, I guess I should have investigated the OPERATION field a bit more. Intuitively, PLAN and COMPLETE didn't seem to make much sense. Perhaps if the words chosen could have been COMPLETE and PARTIAL, it might have made better sense or just simply PLANNED. This seems like another one of those non-intuitive areas that could be improved. I"ve been told recently that several customers that have piloted MCC have keep it running, but sort of ignored it. It takes too much of a persons time to learn it and turn it into a useful tool. I hope we're putting our efforts into making the whole package much more user friendly and intuitive!!! Al |