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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
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Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
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3351.0. "problem with show node4 characteristics" by COLSER::LUNT () Tue Jul 14 1992 04:13

Hello all you MCC Fans,

	Has anyone gotten the following error message when doing a show
node4 blabla all characteristics??

�DECmcc (X1.2.21)
�
�MCC> SHOW NODE4 BYLV21 ALL CHARACTERISTICS
�Node4 1.82 
�AT 13-JUL-1992 17:15:39 Characteristics
�
�Examination of Attributes shows:
�                         Identification = "DECnet-VAX V5.5,  VMS V5.5    "
�                     Management Version = V4.0.0
�                         Incoming Timer = 45 Seconds
�                         Outgoing Timer = 60 Seconds
�                         Incoming Proxy = Enable
�                         Outgoing Proxy = Enable
�                            NSP Version = V4.1.0
�                          Maximum Links = 128 Links
�                           Delay Factor = 80
�                           Delay Weight = 5
�                       Inactivity Timer = 60 Seconds
�                      Retransmit Factor = 10
�                        Routing Version = V2.0.0
�                                   Type = EndNodeIV
�                          Routing Timer = 600 Seconds
�                Broadcast Routing Timer = 180 Seconds
�                        Maximum Address = 1023
�                       Maximum Circuits = 16
�                           Maximum Cost = 1022
�                           Maximum Hops = 30
�                         Maximum Visits = 63
�                           Maximum Area = 17
�           Maximum Broadcast NonRouters = 64
�              Maximum Broadcast Routers = 32
�                    Maximum Path Splits = 1
�                      Maximum Area Cost = 1022
�                      Maximum Area Hops = 30
�                        Maximum Buffers = 100
�                            Buffer Size = 576 Bytes
�                    administrativeState = 
�%MCC-E-NOENTITY,  no corresponding entity instance exists 
�
�                         Default Access = Both
�                         Pipeline Quota = 20000
�                    Alias Maximum Links = 32





Also, why does MCC always respond with the node address (as in the above
example) instead of the registered name or the node4 synonym? This
is very irritating, especially when one reads the characteritics
for several nodes using a wildcard. It doesn't seem to matter whether
I use the registered name or node synonym in the command. Is there any 
logical/parameter that can be set to change this?

Thanks in Advance, Julie Ann
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3351.1>>> show node4 help... <<<KITFOX::BALLTue Jul 14 1992 17:26146
    Hi -
    	( 1 ) I am currently running DECmcc V1.2.0 on an OpenVMS Vax V6.0 
    	      system and have not yet seen that error.
    
    <kitfox_darryl_2> man/e
    DECmcc (V1.2.0)
    
    MCC> show node4 kitfox all cha
    
    Node4 4.992
    AT 14-JUL-1992 16:05:24 Characteristics
    
    Examination of Attributes shows:
                             Identification = "DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V6.0"
                         Management Version = V4.0.0
                             Incoming Timer = 45 Seconds
                             Outgoing Timer = 60 Seconds
                             Incoming Proxy = Enable
                             Outgoing Proxy = Enable
                                NSP Version = V4.1.0
                              Maximum Links = 32 Links
                               Delay Factor = 80
                               Delay Weight = 5
                           Inactivity Timer = 60 Seconds
                          Retransmit Factor = 10
                            Routing Version = V2.0.0
                                       Type = EndNodeIV
                              Routing Timer = 600 Seconds
                    Broadcast Routing Timer = 180 Seconds
                            Maximum Address = 1023
                           Maximum Circuits = 16
                               Maximum Cost = 1022
                               Maximum Hops = 30
                             Maximum Visits = 63
                               Maximum Area = 63
               Maximum Broadcast NonRouters = 64
                  Maximum Broadcast Routers = 32
                        Maximum Path Splits = 1
                          Maximum Area Cost = 1022
                          Maximum Area Hops = 30
                            Maximum Buffers = 100
                                Buffer Size = 576 Bytes
                         NonPrivileged User = ""
                     NonPrivileged Password = ""
                             Default Access = Both
                             Pipeline Quota = 10000
                        Alias Maximum Links = 32
    MCC> show node4 kitfox all attr
    
    Node4 4.992
    AT 14-JUL-1992 16:08:39 All Attributes
    
                                       Name = KITFOX
                                    Address = 4.992
                                      State = On
                           Physical Address = AA-00-04-00-E0-13
                        nmfoperationalState = Enabled
                  Seconds Since Last Zeroed = 10361 Seconds
                        User Bytes Received = 5284 Bytes
                            User Bytes Sent = 5128 Bytes
                    Total Messages Received = 500 Messages
                        Total Messages Sent = 552 Messages
                          Connects Received = 52 Connects
                              Connects Sent = 52 Connects
                          Response Timeouts = 0 Timeouts
           Received Connect Resource Errors = 0
               Maximum Logical Links Active = 24 Links
                           Aged Packet Loss = 0 Packets
               Node Unreachable Packet Loss = 0 Packets
              Node Out-of-Range Packet Loss = 0 Packets
                      Oversized Packet Loss = 0 Packets
                        Packet Format Error = 0
                Partial Routing Update Loss = 0
                        Verification Reject = 0
                      Counter Creation Time = 14-JUL-1992 13:15:59.34
                             Identification = "DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V6.0"
                         Management Version = V4.0.0
                     NonPrivileged Password = ""
                         NonPrivileged User = ""
                             Incoming Timer = 45 Seconds
                             Outgoing Timer = 60 Seconds
                               Delay Factor = 80
                               Delay Weight = 5
                           Inactivity Timer = 60 Seconds
                              Maximum Links = 32 Links
                                NSP Version = V4.1.0
                          Retransmit Factor = 10
                          Maximum Area Cost = 1022
                          Maximum Area Hops = 30
                    Broadcast Routing Timer = 180 Seconds
                                Buffer Size = 576 Bytes
                            Maximum Address = 1023
                               Maximum Area = 63
               Maximum Broadcast NonRouters = 64
                  Maximum Broadcast Routers = 32
                            Maximum Buffers = 100
                           Maximum Circuits = 16
                               Maximum Cost = 1022
                               Maximum Hops = 30
                             Maximum Visits = 63
                              Routing Timer = 600 Seconds
                            Routing Version = V2.0.0
                                       Type = EndNodeIV
                             Default Access = Both
                             Pipeline Quota = 10000
                        Alias Maximum Links = 32
                             Incoming Proxy = Enable
                             Outgoing Proxy = Enable
                        Maximum Path Splits = 1
                               Initial Name = KITFOX
                            Initial Address = 4.992
                 Initial Management Version = V4.0.0
             Initial NonPrivileged Password = ""
                 Initial NonPrivileged User = ""
                    Initial Maximum Address = 1023
                               Initial Type = EndNodeIV
                              Initial State = On
    MCC>
    
>>Also, why does MCC always respond with the node address (as in the above
>>example) instead of the registered name or the node4 synonym? This
>>is very irritating, especially when one reads the characteritics
>>for several nodes using a wildcard. It doesn't seem to matter whether
>>I use the registered name or node synonym in the command. 
    
  ( 2 ) The PhaseIV Access Module always uses the address because on
        the actual phase4 network everything must have an address
        but everything does not have to have a name. So everything
        is handled by address.
    
        The Acess Module allows:
        MCC> show node4 1.82
        MCC> show node4 1106
        MCC> show node4 foo
        MCC> show node4 .foo
    
>> is there any logical/parameter that can be set to change this?
    
  ( 3 ) At this time no there isn't...
    
    
    
    
    
    
    - darryl
3351.2bu other access modules use the name!!!!COL01::LUNTWed Jul 15 1992 05:238
Hello Darryl,

	Thanks for the reply. I can understand why the
AM has to use the address to talk with the node, but 
other access modules return the name in the output. Would
it be difficult to have this change put on the wish list?

Julie Ann
3351.3>>> using names... <<<KITFOX::BALLThu Jul 16 1992 11:1614
    Hi Julie Ann -
    
    >> Would it be difficult to have this change put on the wish list?
    
       It's now on the wish list... I can't make any promises about
       it's priority or when it will be done though. You are correct
       it would be nice.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    - darryl
3351.4ok, but the entity error????COL01::LUNTFri Jul 17 1992 04:176
Hi Darryl,

	Ok, that is acceptable. But do you or anyone else have an
idea on the error I get when showing statistics?

Julie Ann
3351.5TOOK::STRUTTManagement - the one word oxymoronWed Jul 22 1992 18:3520
    re: .0 (and .4)
�                            Buffer Size = 576 Bytes
�                    administrativeState = 
�%MCC-E-NOENTITY,  no corresponding entity instance exists 
�
�                         Default Access = Both
    
    This seems a little wierd to me. "administrativeState" does not seem
    to fit. Indeed, if I look at another node, running VMS V5.5, I get:
    
                                Buffer Size = 576 Bytes
                             Default Access = Both
                             Pipeline Quota = 10000
      
    so it looks like either some "unexpected" stuff appeared in the NICE
    protocol, or perhaps that your dictionary does not match the software
    (e.g. AM) that you are running.
    How reproducible is this?
    
    Colin
3351.6get a dump if you want helpTOOK::CALLANDERMCC = My Constant CompanionTue Aug 11 1992 13:2413
    Colin, you are right on. The noentity error means that we can't
    find the info specified in the dictionary. Now the problem with
    figuring out which is causing the problem is that the error
    gets broadcast to the display by the FCL so sometimes it appears before
    or in the middle of the actual attribute causing the problem.
    
    Juile Ann, if you turn on the fcl log bits (define mcc_fcl_pm_log 8)
    and
    take a look at the dump the codes, it will show us which attribute
    is the problem. Take the dump and put it as a response.
    
    thanks
    jill
3351.7used by circuit amTOOK::PURRETTATue Aug 11 1992 14:5911
    Like Jill said, the dump would be helpful.  However I may be able to
    provide some info about this attribute.
    
    administrativeState is an orphaned attribute in DNA4 and DNA5
    and used only by the circuit AM for NMF support.  At one time,
    someone must have performed some operation using the CIRCUIT AM
    against this node.  The AdministrativeState attribute is written
    to DNS for storage when set.  It'd be interesting to see what the
    value is from the dump.
    
    John