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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
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Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

3245.0. "CMIP vs SMP" by CUJO::HILL (Dan Hill-Net.Mgt.-Customer Resident) Thu Jun 25 1992 03:06

    I have heard rumblings about a newly enhanced version of SNMP called
    Simple Management Protocol (SMP) that is supposed to become a solid
    competitor of CMIP.
    
    Supposedly, SMP will run over TCP/IP, OSI, Novel IPX/SPX, AppleTalk,
    and SNA.  It will employ the use of "subagents" passing data to a
    master agent in order to monitor multiple items (applications, disks,
    system resources, ...) simultaneously on the same node, then pass the
    data in bulk to the management station.
    
    Any plans to support SMP via DECmcc?  DEC has supposedly
    licensed it from the developers (Marshall Rose, et al) ?
    
    -Dan
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3245.1leading edge vs profitable marketsSKIBUM::GASSMANThu Jun 25 1992 08:5230
    SMP could become SNMP V2 if the IETF adopts the specs.  It's a new
    spec based on three years of real-world experience with SNMP.  New
    features include security, better error messages and traps, bulk 
    data retrieval, security, and several other features I can't recall.  
    Also, there are dozens of new MIBs and a new RFC compiler to combine 
    MIBs, include exceptions and changes, and call the edited mib(s) a 
    'macro' that can be referenced in a MIB2 attribute on an agent.  There 
    is also a common agent kind of process called "EMANATE" (aka Son of SMUX).  
    All neat stuff that will most likely be accepted by the SNMP market and 
    need to be supported by SNMP vendors (like Digital).  The specs have not 
    been made public yet - however Jeff Case visited Digital to conduct a
    class for MSU and MCC engineers (mostly on the security stuff).  When
    SMP takes off - those products that support it from an agent and manager
    point of view will be more valuable in the customer's eyes.
    
    As for the CMIP market - well - it's a bit on the leading edge of
    market demand right now.  Some telecom vendors are making use of it,
    and the government GOSSIP requires it - so CMIP should start it's
    movement into the growth phase of demand - but it doesn't have the
    years of experience or hundreds of supporting vendors - so CMIP will be
    used where it's required or where it can perform things SNMP can't.
    Filtering and scoping are mentioned as things CMIP can do that SNMP
    can't, but I've yet seen the application that demonstrated those
    features being used in an obivous way.  The DME-RPC will confuse the
    need for CMIP when comes out.  The real market for CMIP should develop
    as the real market for OSI develops.  SNMP over OSI with OSI MIBS will
    be an issue - but I suspect that those willing to put up with the
    complexities of OSI will enjoy the compexities of CMIP and use it.
    
    bill
3245.2CMIP vs SNMP doc?TPOVC::BARRYCHANGBARRY CHANG @TPO SWS TAIWANWed Jul 15 1992 00:0011
    Bill,
    
         Do you have an idea for what benefits CMIP.  In my country, the
    DGT is going to have several network management platform with network
    management.  Most of the vendors' product are SNMP matured but without
    solid implementation of CMIP.  Althougth the trend for
    Telecommunication is CMIP/OSI, do we have any comments on what reason
    benefits CMIP?  Or do you recommend any document for this issue?
    
    Thanks and Regards,
    barry