Conference azur::mcc

3227.0. "DECmcc Reference entity registration" by BIS1::COLLEYE () Mon Jun 22 1992 13:07

Hello,

DECmcc (V1.2T7) has a stange behaviour with the reference entity.
You will find attached a log file of the experiment I made:
- I registered two reference entities
- I then tried to examine their identifiers... by DECmcc does not
  retreive them.
- I then have included that entity in one of my domain and re-issued
  the show command. It worked.

Questions:
1) Is this behaviour a bug  or a supported feature ?
2) Is the pouplate command I used the best way to include
   an entity in a domain or is there an alternative ?

Maurice.

!===============================================================================
!!
!!  MCC_SESSION.LOG
!!
!!===============================================================================
!USE DEFAULT QUALIFIER IN DOMAIN .MC_WORK ! define your favourit domain, the one you work with the more frequently
!%MCC-S-DEFQUAL, IN DOMAIN .MC_WORK will be used as the default qualifier
!USE INDENTATION 35                       ! center the output
!%MCC-S-INDSET, indentation level set to 35
!DEFINE LOCNODE NODE4 .dna_node.TPLAB     ! defines symbols that you will often use
!%MCC-I-SYMDEF, Symbol defined.
!DEFINE REMNODE NODE4 .dna_node.ADGLAB
!%MCC-I-SYMDEF, Symbol defined.
!!
!!==========================
!!  Now start your session:
!!==========================
!%MCC-S-VERIFYEXIT, exiting command procedure ADG$USER_21:[COLLEYE.DECMCC.COM]MC_MCC_INIT.COM;9
!
!
use mode form
!
register reference pod_6
!
!
!Reference SDE:.pod_6 
!AT 22-JUN-1992 17:48:48 
!
!Registration successful.
!
register reference .dna_node.pod_7
!
!
!Reference SDE:.dna_node.pod_7 
!AT 22-JUN-1992 17:49:10 
!
!Registration successful.
!
show ref pod7
!
!Using default ALL IDENTIFIERS
!
!Reference SDE:.pod7 
!AT 22-JUN-1992 17:49:21 Identifiers
!
!The requested operation cannot be completed
!     MCC Unhandled Service Reply = No such entity: Domain SDE:.MC_WORK Member * 
!                  Unknown Entity = Domain SDE:.MC_WORK Member * 
!
show ref pod_7
!
!Using default ALL IDENTIFIERS
!
!Reference SDE:.pod_7 
!AT 22-JUN-1992 17:49:29 Identifiers
!
!The requested operation cannot be completed
!     MCC Unhandled Service Reply = No such entity: Domain SDE:.MC_WORK Member * 
!                  Unknown Entity = Domain SDE:.MC_WORK Member * 
!
show ref pod_6
!
!Using default ALL IDENTIFIERS
!
!Reference SDE:.pod_6 
!AT 22-JUN-1992 17:49:45 Identifiers
!
!The requested operation cannot be completed
!     MCC Unhandled Service Reply = No such entity: Domain SDE:.MC_WORK Member * 
!                  Unknown Entity = Domain SDE:.MC_WORK Member * 
!
Show reference pod_6 ALL IDENTIFIERS, IN DOMAIN = *
!
!
!Reference SDE:.pod_6 
!AT 22-JUN-1992 17:51:28 Identifiers
!
!The requested operation cannot be completed
!     MCC Unhandled Service Reply = No such entity: Domain * Member * 
!                  Unknown Entity = Domain * Member * 
!
!
!
Populate domain mc_mcc Select list = (REFERENCE POD_6)
!
!
!Domain SDE:.mc_mcc 
!AT 22-JUN-1992 17:58:29 
!
!1 members successfully populated to domain SDE:.mc_mcc.
!
!
show refe pod_6
!
!Using default ALL IDENTIFIERS
!
!Reference SDE:.pod_6 
!AT 22-JUN-1992 17:58:44 Identifiers
!
!The requested operation cannot be completed
!     MCC Unhandled Service Reply = No such entity: Domain SDE:.MC_WORK Member * 
!                  Unknown Entity = Domain SDE:.MC_WORK Member * 
!
show refe pod_6 ,in domain mc_mcc
!
!Using default ALL IDENTIFIERS
!
!Reference SDE:.pod_6 
!AT 22-JUN-1992 17:59:08 Identifiers
!
!Examination of attributes shows:
!                            Name = SDE:.pod_6
!

the register command is ignoring the default qualifier you are sending it,
but the same is not true for the SHOW command. The reason it worked in
the final case is because it was in the domain.

Thank you for your clarification
    
    
As far as the Question 2 is concerned, have you any suggestion ? Question 2 was:
2) Is the pouplate command (see .0) I used the best way to include
   an entity in a domain or is there an alternative ?

    
As far as the first question is concerned (Is this behaviour a bug  
    or a supported feature ?), why then didn't the following commamnd 
    work ?
!
Show reference pod_6 ALL IDENTIFIERS, IN DOMAIN = *
!
!
!Reference SDE:.pod_6 
!AT 22-JUN-1992 17:51:28 Identifiers
!
!The requested operation cannot be completed
!     MCC Unhandled Service Reply = No such entity: Domain * Member * 
!                  Unknown Entity = Domain * Member * 
!
!
!

>
>2) Is the pouplate command (see .0) I used the best way to include
>   an entity in a domain or is there an alternative ?
>

	It's as good as any, I suppose.

    
>As far as the first question is concerned (Is this behaviour a bug  
>    or a supported feature ?), why then didn't the following commamnd 
>    work ?
>!
>Show reference pod_6 ALL IDENTIFIERS, IN DOMAIN = *
>!
>!
>!Reference SDE:.pod_6 
>!AT 22-JUN-1992 17:51:28 Identifiers
>!
>!The requested operation cannot be completed
>!     MCC Unhandled Service Reply = No such entity: Domain * Member * 
>!                  Unknown Entity = Domain * Member * 
>!

It didn't work because what I *think* you're trying to do isn't supported by
any of the PMs.   I.e.   It is expected behavior, I think.   

If what you are trying to accomplish is get a list of the domains of which
POD_6 is a member, then there is no way from any of the existing PMs to expose
all of the domains that an object is a member of.   It _is_ something that the
domain FM *can* do (across the mcc_call interface) but it just wasn't made
available to the PMs for some reason that I do not understand.

If this _were_ implemented, I think the correct FCL syntax would be something
like    
	MCC> SHOW DOMAIN * IDENTIFIERS SELECT LIST = (reference pod_6)

I don't know if this is on the "to-do" list for the next release, but if it
isn't, it should be.    We've run into this limitation already with one of our
OEMs....

/doug