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Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
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3151.0. "Autotopology STM" by BRAT::BUKOWSKI () Tue Jun 09 1992 15:18

    I just received the results from a Autotopology of the spanning tree.
    I like the way it uses the icon type that matches the hardware type,
    but I don't like it creating domains to show the ethernet segment.
    I am also confused as to what segment a bridge is connected to when
    my network has approximately 70 bridges and the spanning tree is 5
    layers deep.   So now I want to deregister everything, but I can
    only delete the entities and domains one at a time.  Isn't there
    an easier way???   Wouldn't it be nice to be able to select all
    and then use the delete icon.  It could even ask you if you were
    sure that you wanted to do this before the operation started.  The
    same goes for the command line mode.  You should be able to do
    something like "Deregister bridge .*, in domain .bridges".. 
    
    After I clean out the domain that I had performed the autotopology in,
    can I modify the MCC_STM_BRIDGES_AUTOREG.COM file and run autotopology
    again so the end result would be the map I have now, but with bridge
    names that enter in the autoregister file?
    
    Mike
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3151.1Some answersQUIVER::HAROKOPUSWed Jun 10 1992 15:2561
Hi Mike,

Thanks for your input on the STM FM.  I can answer some of your questions
but I'll defer to someone more familiar with the registration and domain FMs
to answer the rest.


>    I just received the results from a Autotopology of the spanning tree.
>    I like the way it uses the icon type that matches the hardware type,
>    but I don't like it creating domains to show the ethernet segment.

We eventually want to modifiy the LAN autotopology to map stations on 
ethernet segments (won't be in V1.2 though).    That is why domains
were used here instead of some other graphical representation.  Currently,
you can map the FDDI ring domains on the map using the FDDI FM.


>     I am also confused as to what segment a bridge is connected to when
>    my network has approximately 70 bridges and the spanning tree is 5
>    layers deep.

In general I agree.  We have a large network also and I have these problems too.
The problem is that these maps are so large that there is no way to fit it
on one screen.  What is really needed is the ability to save maps in postscript.
There is a tool available internally that does this.   The ability to scale
maps would also be helpful.

>  So now I want to deregister everything, but I can
>   only delete the entities and domains one at a time.  Isn't there
>    an easier way???   Wouldn't it be nice to be able to select all
>    and then use the delete icon.  It could even ask you if you were
>    sure that you wanted to do this before the operation started.  The
>   same goes for the command line mode.  You should be able to do
>    something like "Deregister bridge .*, in domain .bridges".. 

I don't know if there is anyway to deregister all of the devices in a
domain with one command.  I'll defer this one.   However, if you
run the STM FM with the autoregister argument set to FALSE, then 
you won't need to do this.   You will still get the autoregistration
commmand file and the map file, but the autoregistration command file
will not be run.  

The comand you want to use is:

mcc>automap mcc 0 stm_fm autoregister=false, in domain=<domain_id> 



>    After I clean out the domain that I had performed the autotopology in,
>    can I modify the MCC_STM_BRIDGES_AUTOREG.COM file and run autotopology
>    again so the end result would be the map I have now, but with bridge
>   names that enter in the autoregister file?
    

Yes.  You need to modify the command file, then run it yourself
to register all of the bridges.   Then the next time you run the STM FM
it will use the registered names you selected.

Regards,

Bob
3151.2This makes it a bit easierBARREL::LEMMONMon Jun 15 1992 11:555
    Try Selecting the delete tool, press shift, then delete the entity.
    This lets you delete multiple without having to go back to the 
    toolbox each time. 
    
    /Jim