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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

2982.0. "WANrouter & DECNIS management?" by BREAKR::DANAHY () Tue May 12 1992 14:30

    Hi;
    
    
    Can someone tell me to what extent I will be able to manage a WANrouter
    250 and a DECNIS 600 with DECmcc. Will the ELM AM be used or will I
    use the SNMP AM? If SNMP, are sets and traps available? How
    about the historian an the PA? My customer is evaluating both boxes. If
    they like the performance and the managebility they will purchase 72
    WANrouter 250s or 12 DECNIS 600s. 
    
    Thanx,
    Dan
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2982.1DECnet Phase V AM for DECnis 600.CHRISB::BRIENENDECmcc LAN and SNMP Stuff...Tue May 12 1992 18:5813
 I think DNA CMIP (via the DECnet Phase V "OSI AM") is the current
protocol of choice for managing DECnis 600s. Definitely no support for
the ELMS protocol. If SNMP is supported, it'll be a subset of what's
manageable with DNA CMIP.

 Historian is generic, so it *should* work (assuming no unusual datatypes
as identifiers) and PA FM has particular Phase V Statistics (which ones
do you need?).

 Wally Matthews should have the details of this...

						Chris
 
2982.2stiil looking for answerBREAKR::DANAHYFri May 15 1992 15:115
    Still looking for an anwer on the WANrouter 250. Will DECmcc support
    this device and to what extent.
    
    
    Dan
2982.3Wanrouter is a decnet node of some flavorTOOK::MATTHEWSFri May 15 1992 16:4928
    WANrouters are managed as either a DNA4 or DNA5 node. I am not
    sure whether it is a Phase IV or Phase V implementation. The
    architecture of all the WANrouters are that they are pure
    subsets of either a Node4 or Node. DECmcc supports most of
    the DNA4 architecture and all of the DNA5 architecture.
    
    We test pretty thoroughly against DECnet Ultrix, DECnet VMS, etc.
    It is the responsibility of the various entity development groups
    to test their variants against DECmcc. We would never get anything
    done if we had to test against every possible variant of the Phase
    IV architecture and THOU WILT NOT vary from the DNA5 architecture ::-)
    
    I suggest you send your request for WANrouter 250 specific info
    to MARVIN::COBB in reading. The reason you didn't get an answer
    is that the wanrouter people don't follow this notes file and
    the DECmcc group have done only cursory testing against the
    routers. We have 2 available to us in our test network and no
    capital budget for more. All the routers in EZNet have security
    access and who would want to let us test against their live 
    network. 
    
    If you experiment against a particular device and after carefully
    checking the configuration find that there is a bug, please submit
    a qar. If you test and find that it works, please let us know. In
    either case we are interested.
    
    wally
    
2982.4TOOK::LEVINEThink global, act locoMon May 18 1992 14:247
The WANrouter 250 is managed via DNA CMIP.  SNMP can be used to monitor but
not to control the router (i.e., can SHOW, can't SET).

We've experienced no problems with DECmcc, though we haven't tested against
it extensively.

-Lance- (a WR250 developer)
2982.5thanksBREAKR::DANAHYMon May 18 1992 20:393
    Thanks to both of you. Thats exactly what I wanted to hear.
    
    Dan