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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

2803.0. "V1.1 sho statistic bug?" by ZUR01::SCHNEIDERR () Tue Apr 21 1992 07:14

Hello,

In the Performance Analyzer Manual is written on page 2-7 what partitions you 
should record for the statistical reports from recorded datas.

We do a record for node4, node4 line, node4 circuit on partition * (all).

I do the following commands and get the following messages:

MCC> show node4 zhss05 circ isa-0 all statistics, for start=(31-mar-1992-18:00)-
_MCC> every=1:00 duration=1:00 until=01-apr-1992-06:00

Node4 zhss05 Circuit isa-0
AT  1-APR-1992 13:08:07 Statistics

Cannot read attributes.
                              MCC Error = 0, T1.0.0,
                                          %MCC-S-COMMON_EXCEPTIO, success with
                                          common exception reply,
                                          Requested data not available for
                                          specified time
                                          Show,
                                          Node4 zhss05 Circuit isa-0 ,
                                          Show,
                                          Node4 zhss05 Circuit isa-0 ,

MCC> show node4 zhss05 line isa-0 all statistics, for start=(31-mar-1992-18:00)-
_MCC> every=1:00 duration=1:00 until=01-apr-1992-06:00

Node4 zhss05 Line isa-0
AT  1-APR-1992 13:07:11 Statistics

Cannot read attributes.
                              MCC Error = 0, T1.0.0,
                                          %MCC-S-COMMON_EXCEPTIO, success with
                                          common exception reply,
                                          Show,
                                          Node4 zhss05 Circuit isa-0 ,
                                          Node4 zhss05 Circuit isa-0 ,
                                          Show,
                                          Node4 zhss05 Circuit isa-0 ,
                                          Requested data not available for
                                          specified time


MCC> show node4 zhss05 all statistics, for start=(31-mar-1992-18:00)-
_MCC> every=12:00 duration=12:00 until=01-apr-1992-06:00
 
Node4 zhss05
AT 30-MAR-1992 18:00:00 Statistics

No counters in the counters attribute partition for this entity.



With the IMAM this commands are working. By the way the example command in the
performance manual on page 2-7 doesn't work. There is a bracket to much.

Roland
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2803.1Please check times for all attributes.TOOK::ANWARUDDINAnwarTue Apr 21 1992 11:536
Please SHOW all COUNTERS and all CHARACTERISTICS for the specified times
for the Line and Circuit entities. It is possible that some attributes
may have been recorded later than others, in which case you have to specify 
the later time. 
You mention that the commands are working with IMPM. Did you specify the same
scope of interest time?
2803.2Yes the same scope of interestZUR01::SCHNEIDERRThu Apr 23 1992 11:458
Yes, of corse, I tried in the IMPM and the FCLPM with the same timevalues. I do
exactly what I wrote in .0. I record all partition for circ, line, node4 with
default values.
Have you tried it out? Does it work in your DECmcc. I tested it inhouse and
on a customers DECmcc and on both the same messages.


Regards Roland
2803.3substitute - for : after 1992ICS::WOODCOCKThu Apr 23 1992 13:0012
try this syntax:

show node4 <node> circuit <circuit> all statistic,-
for start 23-apr-1992:8:0 every 1:0 until 23-apr-1992:9:0 dur 1:0,-
in domain <domain>

Note the : after 1992 not a -

this works for me.

best regards,
brad...
2803.4Will checkZUR01::SCHNEIDERRThu Apr 30 1992 04:2213
Brad,

We tried it with a : and a - after the 1992. We saw no difference.

As I told with the IMPM it works and with the FCLPM it doesn't. We will check the
counters and the characteristic for the specified time. Remember we are using
V1.1 and not T1.2. I tested it on two machines and on both the same messages. 
But I can't understand if there is a wrong recording why does it work with one PM
and not with an other. And the same is working on your machine. Could you tell me
what and how often do you record and what timevalues do you use with the show
statistic command?

Thanks Roland
2803.5try without dateICS::WOODCOCKThu Apr 30 1992 09:4121
Hi Roland,

I record:

	Node4 Circuit Counters hourly
	Node4 Circuit Char. daily
	Node4 Line Char. daily

Time requests each night are typically done for a duration of around
8 hours from a .com file for each circuit. If we need interactive stats
I'd only ask for them at a granularity of EVERY 1:0 with DURATION 1:0 
because I'm not polling the counters any more frequently. Nothing special.
Have you tried getting rid of the DATE to get stats just for today.

Example (command used after 10am):

Show node4 <node> circuit <circuit> all statis, for start 6:0 every 1:0 -
until 10:0 dur 1:0, in domain <domain>

best regards,
brad...
2803.6domain??ICS::WOODCOCKThu Apr 30 1992 09:4511
>MCC> show node4 zhss05 circ isa-0 all statistics, for start=(31-mar-1992-18:00)-
>_MCC> every=1:00 duration=1:00 until=01-apr-1992-06:00

Roland,

You may also want to try putting the DURATION *after* the UNTIL. Also did you
specify the domain you are recording in at the end of the command??? 

brad...

2803.7VCSESU::WADEBill Wade, VAXc Systems &amp; Support EngFri May 01 1992 13:2810
    Hi Roland,
    
    One problem that I had when I was working with V1.1 and looking at past
    statistics was the case sensitivity of the node4 name.  You need to
    enter it exactly as it was entered when registered.  Try uppercase.
    
    
    Regards,
    Bill
    
2803.8I will checkZUR01::SCHNEIDERRMon May 04 1992 09:274
Wow, Thanks for all the reply. I will check all your hints with the customer.
I can't do at the moment here in our office.

Thanks  Roland
2803.9it doesn't workZUR01::SCHNEIDERRTue May 19 1992 09:2031
Hello,

Sorry, it doesn't work. What have we done?

Now I record linecounter each hour,
	     circuitcounter each hour,
	     circuit and line char once a day.

I started all from new. With iconic map I have no problems to get eighter the
statistics or the counters for a past time. But with FCL it doesn't work.
When I want to get counters for a pasttime (show node4 ... line .. all counters,
for start=....) it tells me

MCC> show node4 zhss05 line isa-0 all counters,for start=(19-may-1991-12:00)-
_MCC>  ,in domain=DOMAIN.THR

Node4 zhss05 Line isa-0
AT 19-MAY-1992 14:13:33 Counters

Requested data not available for specified time
MCC>

I tried to give the exact time from the sample, read out from the IMPM but the
same. When I have a look to the recording (show record) it tells me that 
everything is o.k., no pollfailure, lots of samples and so on. TFor me the 
recording is o.k., but there is something in the FCL PM. We tried it with
MCC V1.1 and MCC T1.2.7. on both systems the same. As Brad told in RE.5/6 it 
works on his system.


Roland
2803.10TOOK::CALLANDERMCC = My Constant CompanionWed Jun 17 1992 11:1412
by only supplying the start time, you are only asking for
a specific instance in time. If you didn't have a data segment
stored for that time then you will get the exception that you
see.

When did you start your recording and at what interval are you telling
it to do the recording?

jill
(sorry for delay in responding, the PA developer has retired recently
 and we are still working on transitioning his responsibilities into
 another team.)