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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

2447.0. "Problems adding MIBs" by LATACP::J_HASSENCAHL (CSC/Atlanta Network Support) Thu Feb 27 1992 12:28

Hello,

	I am having problems adding in the character mib.  The processing
appears to go just fine.  I just cannot get back using DECwindows.  I am
attempting to use SNMP with a DECserver 300 v2.1.

	The environmental information is as follows:

	VMS T5.5-1E7
	DECW$Motif T1.1
	VAXstation 3100 M38 SPX
	UCX v1.3a
	DECmcc T1.2.15 using local MIR

I am using the MCC_TCPIP_MTU.COM procedure to attempt to add in the rs232 and
char mib's.  It appears to be something isolated to the char mib.  The command
procedure appears to execute without any errors.  It is just when you attempt
to get back into DECmcc that the problem comes up.

	One of things things that I have seen is a RMS-E-FNF error come back.
Upon using SET WATCH FILE, I noticed that the last file looked at was the
MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT file for a read I/O.  After that there is an attempt made
for ".;0" or in other words a null file which is where the error comes from.

	If someone would like to get a copy of the mib's that I am attempting
to use, just let me know.  Also if there is anything else that I can try to help
isolate the problem.

John
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2447.1Need more info.YAHEY::BOSEThu Feb 27 1992 13:2718
	John,
		Are you sure that the three phases in mcc_tcpip_mtu.com 
	completed succesfully ? In other words, did the mib get loaded into
	the dictionary and the parse table built successfully ? You might
	want to try the following to make sure that the child entity for
	the character mib got successfully added to the global entity
	SNMP.

	$ MANAGE/TOOL/DICTIONARY
	DAP> show class snmp

		If the above looks fine, then my guess is that the problem
	you are facing has nothing to do with adding new mibs. Have you 
	tried using commands which do not make calls to the SNMP AM ?
	Lastly, did you exit and restart DECmcc after adding the new mibs ?

	Rahul.
2447.2They appear to have gotten in correctly ... here is at least one ...LATACP::J_HASSENCAHLCSC/Atlanta Network SupportThu Feb 27 1992 14:25274
Hi Rahul,

	The command procedure appears to be executing correctly.  The following
is the output from its execution:

LATACP $ @MCC_TCPIP_MTU.COM

Welcome to the DECmcc TCPIP MIB Translator Utility driver procedure T1.2.4

  27-FEB-1992 14:01:13

This procedure operates in a 2 phased manner --
Phase 1 translates the MIB definition into a management specification.
Phase 2 (as an option) translates the management specification into a
  dictionary loadable file and loads the dictionary.

Phase 1 -- Enter name(s) of file(s) to translate
  (separate multiple files by commas): DISK$USER3:[J_HASSENCAHL]CHAR-CONSICE-MIB
.TXT;1
Phase 2 -- Do you want to update the DECmcc data dictionary? (Y/N) [N]: y

Issuing following command:
  $ MTU = "$ SYS$SYSTEM:MCC_TCPIP_MTU.EXE"

                                   * * *

Beginning Phase 1 for file DISK$USER3:[J_HASSENCAHL]CHAR-CONSICE-MIB.TXT;1
Now starting to run the MIB translator...
This may take approximately 1-5 minutes.
  27-FEB-1992 14:01:26
Issuing following command:
  $ MTU DISK$USER3:[J_HASSENCAHL]CHAR-CONSICE-MIB.TXT;1
Entity Model tree is being pruned.
The following non-leaf objects are being removed:
Child entity wellKnownProtocols
Child entity protocolOther
Child entity protocolTelnet
Child entity protocolRlogin
Child entity protocolLat
Child entity protocolX29
Child entity protocolVtp
MIB translation completed successfully.
  27-FEB-1992 14:01:33
Phase 1 for file DISK$USER3:[J_HASSENCAHL]CHAR-CONSICE-MIB.TXT;1 completed.

Beginning Phase 2 for file DISK$USER3:[J_HASSENCAHL]CHAR-CONSICE-MIB.TXT;1
Now copying "INCLUDE" .MS files from MCC_COMMON to default directory.
Now starting to run MSL translator...
This may take approximately 1-10 minutes.
  27-FEB-1992 14:01:35
Issuing following command:
  $ MANAGE/TOOLKIT/SPECIFICATION DISK$USER3:[J_HASSENCAHL]CHAR-CONSICE-MIB.MS
DECmcc Management Specification Language Translation Tool
               Version X1.2.15

%MCCMSL-S-NORMAL, Scan of MS file has completed successfully
MSL translation completed successfully.
  27-FEB-1992 14:01:50
Now starting to clean the DECmcc data dictionary...
This may take approximately 1-10 minutes.
  27-FEB-1992 14:01:50
Issuing following command:
  $ MANAGE/TOOLKIT/DICTIONARY DELETE CLASS SNMP SUBCLASS char
%DAP-S-USE_DICT, Using dictionary file: disk$src_resd:[mcc]mcc_fdictionary.dat;9
%MCC-E-NOENTITY,  no corresponding entity instance exists
Ignore message "%MCC_E_NOENTITY,  no corresponding entity instance exists"
DECmcc data dictionary cleaned successfully.
  27-FEB-1992 14:01:57
Now starting to load the DECmcc data dictionary...
This may take approximately 1-15 minutes.
  27-FEB-1992 14:01:57
Issuing following command:
  $ MANAGE/TOOLKIT/DICTIONARY LOAD FROM DISK$USER3:[J_HASSENCAHL]CHAR-CONSICE-MI
B.COM
%DAP-S-USE_DICT, Using dictionary file: disk$src_resd:[mcc]mcc_fdictionary.dat;9
%DAP-I-CMD_FILE, Command file: DISK$USER3:[J_HASSENCAHL]CHAR-CONSICE-MIB.COM
Using parse table log file: disk$src_resd:[mcc]mcc_fdictionary.log;12
Reading parse table file: disk$src_resd:[mcc]mcc_fdictionary.bpt;18
Please wait while parse tables are updated
  Processing entity 18 519
%MCCPTB-I-NOENTRY, No dictionary entries found.
   No attributes defined for entity class.
  Processing entity 18 519 1
  Processing entity 18 519 2
Writing parse table file.  Please wait...
Created parse table file: disk$src_resd:[mcc]mcc_fdictionary.bpt;19
Parse table build complete.
DECmcc data dictionary loaded successfully.
  27-FEB-1992 14:05:13
Phase 2 for file DISK$USER3:[J_HASSENCAHL]CHAR-CONSICE-MIB.TXT;1 completed.

                                   * * *

  27-FEB-1992 14:05:14

Normal successful completion.
LATACP $ 

Now the following is from the dictionary afterwards:

LATACP $ manage/tool/dic
%DAP-S-USE_DICT, Using dictionary file: disk$src_resd:[mcc]mcc_fdictionary.dat;9

        DECmcc Dictionary Administrator Program   Version T1.2.4

DAP> show class snmp

-> Class (1) : SNMP
     Definition (3) : PRESENTATION_NAME
     Definition (3) : INSTANCE_REQUIRED
     Definition (3) : DYNAMIC
     Definition (3) : INSTANCE_DATATYPE
     Subclass (2) : SNMP 29
     Subclass (2) : EGP 31
     Subclass (2) : UDP 32
     Subclass (2) : TCP 33
     Subclass (2) : ICMP 34
     Subclass (2) : IP 37
     Subclass (2) : ATTABLE 38
     Subclass (2) : INTERFACE 39
     Subclass (2) : CHAR 519
     Attribute (5) : SYSDESCR 1
     Attribute (5) : SYSOBJECTID 2
     Attribute (5) : IFNUMBER 3
     Attribute (5) : SYSCONTACT 4
     Attribute (5) : SYSUPTIME 5
     Attribute (5) : SYSLOCATION 6
     Attribute (5) : SYSSERVICES 7
     Attribute (5) : SYSNAME 8
     Attribute (5) : IPREACHABILITY 9
     Attribute (5) : REGISTEREDNAME 97
     Attribute (5) : NAME 98
     Attribute (5) : ADDRESS 99
     Attribute (5) : LOCATION 100
     Attribute (5) : IMPLEMENTATIONDESC 101
     Attribute (5) : RESPONSIBLEPERSON 102
     Attribute (5) : PHONENUMBER 103
     Attribute (5) : MAILACCOUNT 104
     Attribute (5) : REMARKS 105
     Attribute (5) : TEXTFILE 106
     Attribute (5) : DURATION 200
     Attribute (5) : RCVDOCTETS 201
     Attribute (5) : INPACKETS 202
     Attribute (5) : RCVDOCTETRATE 203
     Attribute (5) : INPACKETRATE 204
     Attribute (5) : XMITDOCTETS 205
     Attribute (5) : OUTPACKETS 206
     Attribute (5) : XMITDOCTETRATE 207
     Attribute (5) : OUTPACKETRATE 208
     Attribute (5) : TOTALOCTETS 209
     Attribute (5) : TOTALPACKETS 210
     Attribute (5) : TOTALPACKETRATE 211
     Attribute (5) : INERRORPACKETS 212
     Attribute (5) : INERRORPACKETPERCENT 213
     Attribute (5) : OUTERRORPACKETS 214
     Attribute (5) : OUTERRORPACKETPERCENT 215
     Attribute (5) : TOTALERRORPACKETS 216
     Attribute (5) : TOTALERRORPACKETPERCENT 217
     Attribute (5) : TOTALOCTETRATE 5000
     Attribute (5) : INERRORPACKETRATE 5001
     Attribute (5) : OUTERRORPACKETRATE 5002
     Attribute (5) : TOTALERRORPACKETRATE 5003
     Directive (6) : SHOW 1
     Directive (6) : SET 2
     Directive (6) : TEST 3
     Directive (6) : DIRECTORY 26
     Directive (6) : REGISTER 29
     Directive (6) : DEREGISTER 30
     Directive (6) : ERASE 33
     Directive (6) : GETEVENT 65
     Event (10) : COLDSTART 0
     Event (10) : WARMSTART 1
     Event (10) : LINKDOWN 2
     Event (10) : LINKUP 3
     Event (10) : AUTHENTICATIONFAILURE 4
     Event (10) : EGPNEIGHBORLOSS 5
     Event (10) : ENTERPRISESPECIFIC 6
     Attribute_Partition (11) : IDENTIFIERS 1
     Attribute_Partition (11) : STATUS 2
     Attribute_Partition (11) : COUNTERS 3
     Attribute_Partition (11) : CHARACTERISTICS 4
     Attribute_Partition (11) : REFERENCES 5
     Attribute_Partition (11) : STATISTICS 13
     Attribute_Group (12) : TRAFFICSTATISTICS 4101
     Attribute_Group (12) : ERRORSTATISTICS 4102
     Attribute_Group (12) : ESSENTIALSTATISTICS 4103
     Event_Partition (13) : CONFIGURATIONEVENTS 15

DAP>

The following is what happens when I attempt to bring up the DECwindows form.
I have also put in a portion of what happens with XQP in case that helps isolate
things down a bit.  If I leave off the "/int=decw" qualifer, I am able to get
DECmcc to come up.  In any case, here is what I got back:

LATACP $ manage/ent/int=decw
%RMS-E-FNF, file not found
LATACP $

LATACP $ set watch file/class=(all,nodump)
LATACP $ manage/ent/int=decw
	.
	.
	.
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Directory scan for: MCC_MIR_DIRECTORY.DAT;0, Status: 00000000
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Access  (0,0,0) Status: 00000910
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read only directory access (755,189,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Directory scan for: MCC_MIR_DIRECTORY.DAT;0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: Access mode MCC_MIR_DIRECTORY.DAT;7 (1058,81,0
)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: Access mode MCC_MIR_DIRECTORY.DAT;7 (1058,81,0
)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: Journal flags MCC_MIR_DIRECTORY.DAT;7 (1058,81
,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: RU active MCC_MIR_DIRECTORY.DAT;7 (1058,81,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: Statistics block MCC_MIR_DIRECTORY.DAT;7 (1058
,81,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: Find ACE by type MCC_MIR_DIRECTORY.DAT;7 (1058
,81,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: Record attributes MCC_MIR_DIRECTORY.DAT;7 (105
8,81,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: User file characteristics MCC_MIR_DIRECTORY.DA
T;7 (1058,81,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Access MCC_MIR_DIRECTORY.DAT;7 (1058,81,0) Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read only directory access (3568,2,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Directory scan for: MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;0, Status: 00000000
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Access  (0,0,0) Status: 00000910
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read only directory access (755,189,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Directory scan for: MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: Access mode MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;7 (1059,112,
0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: Access mode MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;7 (1059,112,
0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: Journal flags MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;7 (1059,11
2,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: RU active MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;7 (1059,112,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: Statistics block MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;7 (1059
,112,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: Find ACE by type MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;7 (1059
,112,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: Record attributes MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;7 (105
9,112,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: User file characteristics MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DA
T;7 (1059,112,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Access MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;7 (1059,112,0) Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read only directory access (755,189,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Directory scan for: .;0, Status: 00000000
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Access  (0,0,0) Status: 00000910
%RMS-E-FNF, file not found
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (988,20,0) Reads: 1, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (1000,36,0) Reads: 1, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (910,53,0) Reads: 44, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (1058,81,0) Reads: 9, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (1059,112,0) Reads: 4, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (2511,7,0) Reads: 5, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (3883,2,0) Reads: 2, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (4210,1,0) Reads: 2, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (3886,2,0) Reads: 2, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (3902,2,0) Reads: 2, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (196,1,0) Reads: 2, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (190,1,0) Reads: 2, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (2519,6,0) Reads: 2, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (2509,7,0) Reads: 3, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (2513,7,0) Reads: 13, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (2507,7,0) Reads: 5, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (4244,4,0) Reads: 7, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
LATACP $


	If there is anything else that I can help with, please let me know.

Thanks,

John
2447.3Some more information ...LATACP::J_HASSENCAHLCSC/Atlanta Network SupportThu Feb 27 1992 14:4057
Hi Rahul,

	I went through the process of adding in the rs232 mib that I have after
doing the char mib that I showed in the previous reply.  Everything appeared to
go as before.  This time when I attempt to bring up the DECwindows interface,
I get the following exit event/status:

%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Directory scan for: MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;0, Status: 00000000
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Access  (0,0,0) Status: 00000910
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read only directory access (755,189,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Directory scan for: MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: Access mode MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;7 (1059,112,
0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: Access mode MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;7 (1059,112,
0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: Journal flags MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;7 (1059,11
2,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: RU active MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;7 (1059,112,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: Statistics block MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;7 (1059
,112,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: Find ACE by type MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;7 (1059
,112,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: Record attributes MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;7 (105
9,112,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Read attributes: User file characteristics MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DA
T;7 (1059,112,0)
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Access MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT;7 (1059,112,0) Status: 00000001

 software error: unable to assign widget events for console thread.
 %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=1C, virtual address=0008DCB1, P
C=00000000, PSL=00000000
%MCC-F-PM_NULEVTERR, software error: unable to assign widget events for console
thread.
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (988,20,0) Reads: 1, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (1000,36,0) Reads: 1, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (910,53,0) Reads: 47, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (1058,81,0) Reads: 9, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (1059,112,0) Reads: 4, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (2511,7,0) Reads: 5, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (3883,2,0) Reads: 2, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (4210,1,0) Reads: 2, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (3886,2,0) Reads: 2, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (3902,2,0) Reads: 2, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (196,1,0) Reads: 2, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (190,1,0) Reads: 2, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (2519,6,0) Reads: 3, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (2509,7,0) Reads: 3, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (2513,7,0) Reads: 13, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (2507,7,0) Reads: 5, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
%XQP-I-FUNCTION, Deaccess (4244,4,0) Reads: 7, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001
LATACP $

It appears to get about the same place as before in regards to the file
MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT, but exits with the %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO status instead of
the RMS file not found error.

John
2447.4Any news ...LATACP::J_HASSENCAHLCSC/Atlanta Network SupportWed Mar 11 1992 18:3517
    Hi,
    
    	It would appear that the MIB's do get added in as far as I am able
    to make use of them using FCL mode.  Somehow something got screwed up
    so that the Iconic Map interface dies when attempting to come up. 
    According to what I can see via XQP, there appears to be a problem with
    the local MIR that only trips up the Iconic Map.
    
    	Since I have not seen or heard anything lately, either this has
    stumped someone or no one cares.  Granted this is still field test, but
    what I was attempting to do was not that far off of what our customers
    are going to be doing.  I would just as soon fix the problem before
    they start calling in with it.
    
    Take care,
    
    John
2447.5Maybe the iconic map folks can help....YAHEY::BOSEThu Mar 12 1992 10:0113
	John,
		From our off-line communication, and from your previous
	reply, it seems that mib extensions work fine from FCL. My guess
	is that the problem you are facing has nothing to do with adding new
	mibs.
		The question I have is, did the iconic map interface work
	on your installed environment before adding the new mibs? Maybe the
	IM/PM folks can help you out with the MCC_MIR_ATTRIBUTE.DAT file 
	access problem. (I might mention that MCC_TCPIP_MTU.COM does not
	touch this file).

	Rahul.
2447.6It did work prior to installing the MIBsLATACP::J_HASSENCAHLCSC/Atlanta Network SupportMon Mar 16 1992 17:559
Hi,

	To answer your question, yes, it did work prior to installing the MIBs.
It just was not real useful from the SNMP stand point when working with a
DECserver 300, which is why I added in the char and rs232 MIBs.

Thanks,

John