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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
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Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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2415.0. "A Million Questions" by TROOA::BALDOCK (Chris Baldock) Tue Feb 25 1992 09:14

    
    I have a few short questions and I'm wondering if I can get some
    quick answers?
    
    1.  You need UCX for SNMP.  SNMP requires some type of transport.
    	Is TCP/IP provided with the access module?
    
    2.  If two processes are started on the MCC box:
    
    	User = 26320, Process = Graphical MCC display
    	User = 26320, Process = CRT Mode MCC with ENABLE ALARM commands
    
    	Will a user like:
    
    	User = 28261, Process = Graphical MCC display
    
    	be alarmed?  If yes, will this user also fire the exception
    	procedure and possible deliver 2 mail messages?  If this user
    	also enables alarms will the alarms be double enabled?
    
    3.  What are the limits to the number of alarms that can be created?
    
    4.  Is there any way to turn off domain edit mode in the GUI? 
    	Sometimes you click on an icon and it moves messing up the map.
    
    5.	Are there methods for determining link utilization calculations?
    	e.g. By retrieving usage statistics from the MCC monitored
    	variables.
    
    6.  What is the latest version of the Vitalink AM?
    
    
    Any and all information is greatly appreciated.
    
    Chris
    
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2415.1A few answersTOOK::MINTZErik Mintz, DECmcc Development, dtn 226-5033Tue Feb 25 1992 10:4240
>    1.  You need UCX for SNMP.  SNMP requires some type of transport.
>    	Is TCP/IP provided with the access module?
 
?? UCX supplies the transport.  That's what it is there for.

   
>    2.  If two processes are started on the MCC box:
>    
>    	User = 26320, Process = Graphical MCC display
>    	User = 26320, Process = CRT Mode MCC with ENABLE ALARM commands
>    
>    	Will a user like:
>    
>    	User = 28261, Process = Graphical MCC display

I don't understand the quesiton.  What do you mean by "User = 28261"?
Are you showing process ids?
    
>    3.  What are the limits to the number of alarms that can be created?
 
The limit on the number of alarms is imposed by system resources.
We are still characterizing (and attempting to minimize) the use of
resources.

>    4.  Is there any way to turn off domain edit mode in the GUI? 
>    	Sometimes you click on an icon and it moves messing up the map.
 
No. This is on the wish list, but is not available in V1.2.

>    5.	Are there methods for determining link utilization calculations?
>    	e.g. By retrieving usage statistics from the MCC monitored
>    	variables.
 
Are you asking for a particular statistic?  Have you looked at the
PA documentation?
   
>    6.  What is the latest version of the Vitalink AM?

Someone from the SVP group will have to tackle this one.

2415.2someone from the SVP group tackles.MCDOUG::MCPHERSONScientific progress goes 'Boink!'Tue Feb 25 1992 11:476
   
>    6.  What is the latest version of the Vitalink AM?

The only version is the first version which is also the latest version.

/doug
2415.3AlarmsTROOA::BALDOCKChris BaldockTue Feb 25 1992 15:3913
    
    Let me elaborate on question #2.  If one user starts MCC with the
    graphical interface, and a second user starts up MCC in command line
    mode and enables alarms, will the first user receive the alarms?
    Or does the first user also have to enable alarms in order to receive
    them?
    
    If both users are enabled for the same alarms and some kind of action
    is specified (e.g. mail or execution of a command procedure), will
    two actions be triggered?
    
    Chris
    
2415.4UDPDANZO::CARRWed Feb 26 1992 13:487
>    1.  You need UCX for SNMP.  SNMP requires some type of transport.
>    	Is TCP/IP provided with the access module?
 
?? UCX supplies the transport.  That's what it is there for.

Actually, we don't use TCP in the AM at all.  We use UDP, a conectionless 
datagram protocol.
2415.5MUNDRA::MUNDRAWed Feb 26 1992 15:2717
>    1.  You need UCX for SNMP.  SNMP requires some type of transport.
>    	Is TCP/IP provided with the access module?
 
?? UCX supplies the transport.  That's what it is there for.

To elaborate...
	The SNMP AM uses the SNMP protocol.  The SNMP protocol runs on top of
UDP which, in turn, runs on top of IP.  The SNMP AM expects some other service
to provide UDP/IP services.  On VMS, UDP/IP services are usually, but not
always, provided by UCX.  One could use some other vendor's TCP/IP product such
as MULTINET to provide the UDP/IP services needed by the AM.  UNIX, on the other
hand, usually comes with TCP/IP services as part of it.
	Also, in general, when talking about TCP/IP, the reference is not
restricted to the TCP and the IP protocols but refers to a whole suite of
protocols that include UDP and many others.

Satinder
2415.6UCX is required, but not supplied.TOOK::R_SPENCENets don't fail me now...Mon Mar 09 1992 16:5910
    I hate to say it but...
    To elaborate...
    
    >    1.  You need UCX for SNMP.  SNMP requires some type of transport.
    >       Is TCP/IP provided with the access module?
     
    UCX is not provided with the SNMP access module. It is a separate
    product which is a prerequisite for the use of the SNMP module.
    
    s/rob
2415.7More on #2TOOK::R_SPENCENets don't fail me now...Mon Mar 09 1992 17:019
    I guess we don't understand what you mean by "recieve alarms".
    
    In the case you state, two users running DECmcc, one with alarm
    rules enabled, both users can be NOTIFIED of alarm firing, but
    the alarm only FIRES in one process and therfore, only one mail
    message would be sent (if the MCC_ALARMS_MAIL procedure or equivilent
    was being used).
    
    s/rob
2415.8TGV MultiNet, too...CHRISB::BRIENENDECmcc LAN and SNMP Stuff...Mon Mar 09 1992 17:0813
RE:    

>   UCX is not provided with the SNMP access module. It is a separate
>   product which is a prerequisite for the use of the SNMP module.

 On VMS you need some type of transport.

 The transports we're currently testing with are:

	1. UCX
	2. TGV MultiNet

						Chris