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    I'm having the same problem too.
    
    Also,  after the installation of ELM FM, the setld -i show that the
    ELUFM120 is corrupted.
    
    Invoking the iconic map causes a invalid memory address error.
    
    Raj
    ACT Singapore

    
    I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM TOO.
    
    DIDIER

Sorry, the tar file seems to have been corrupted somehow.

It's been replaced and verified.  

btw, when you copy the tar file, please use the -i option on dcp.


Thanks,
Tom Hood

Tom, 

Should there be an instctrl directory, SPACE, etc. in the kit? All I 
have is 

tar -tf elm120.tar
ELU.image
ELUAM120
ELUFM120

and I get 

setld -l .
setld: /usr/users/wride/instctrl: no such file or directory
setld: cannot load control information

I had tried to install the old kit and had this stuff, but I deleted 
it all! :^(

                                        Steve

Thanks for correcting the problem with the corrupted FM subset.  Now
I've discovered that the replacement /usr/mcc/mmexe/mcc_iconic_map_pm
image, dated Jan. 31, 1992 (part of the ELUFM120 subset), doesn't work.
 When attempting to start up, it always returns " error in Full Name
value", with no further clue as to the problem.

I've restored the original image, dated Dec. 20, 1991, from the
MCRBMST124 subset, and everything seems to be working again.  Don't ask
how long it took me to figure this out! :^(

I'm running with a real DECdns namespace named "local:", which resides
on a VAX DNS V1.1 server.  If this is important, note that I've
migrated this namespace to use the new SNMP AM directory structure.

	- Andy

setld -l `pwd`

*** Enter Subset Selections ***

The subsets listed below are optional:
 1) DECmcc Extended LAN manager FM

 2) All of the Above
 3) None of the Above
 4) Exit without installing subsets

Enter your choice(s): 1

You are installing the following subsets:
   DECmcc Extended LAN manager FM

Is this correct? (y/n): y

DECmcc Extended LAN manager FM (ELUFM120)
   Copying from /usr/users/guest (disk)tar: Directory checksum error, possible file name:
lock kmtbsync_dlock_utctime_dlock_dnauid_dlock_pfilt_dlock_tpath_dlock_gwscreen_
dlock_roucache
setld:
File copy to system disk failed.

Subset ELUFM120 may not have been installed properly on your system
but the rest of the installation will continue.
   Verifying
setld:
There were verification errors for DECmcc Extended LAN manager FM (ELUFM120)
#


                                                                              

I copy the elm120.tar from ULTRIX to ULTRIX(Hidden area) via FTSV VMS 
and I try dcp -i from ultrix to ultrix I have the same problem .

Please feel free to copy the ULTRIX ELM kit once again.  The corrupted file
system has been corrected.  If you copied anything from here in the past few
days, please delete what you've got and copy from scratch;  you may have bogus
files.

Anyway, that directory should contain *all* of the following:

	> dls -l bhub::/elmkit/
	Directory BHUB::/elmkit/
	elm120.release_notes  -rw-r--r--   19-FEB-92 11:03:21    25183   root
	elm120.tar            -rw-r--r--   19-FEB-92 11:29:46 18913280   root
	elmam120.pak          -rwxr-xr-x   19-FEB-92 11:03:21     2124   root
	elmfm120.pak          -rwxr-xr-x   19-FEB-92 11:03:21     2142   root


The tar file should contain *all* of the following:

	> tar tf elm120.tar
	ELU.image
	ELUAM120
	ELUFM120
	INSTCTRL
	SPACE
	instctrl/
	instctrl/ELUAM120.ctrl
	instctrl/ELUFM120.ctrl
	instctrl/ELUAM120.inv
	instctrl/ELUFM120.inv
	instctrl/ELUAM120.scp
	instctrl/ELUFM120.scp
	instctrl/ELU.image

Andy,

The IMPM will not start up properly if there are extraneous
characters (such as tabs) specified for the default domain
name.

When you customize your default domain name make sure there
are no tabs after the domain name.

The default domain is stored in mcc_resource.dat

You can try commenting out your default domain in that file,
by putting a ! in the first column. Then try invoking the IMPM
again to see if the error message goes away.

Note that this is a new problem that was not present in previous
iconic map executables.

Steve

My mcc_resource.dat file was created by mcc itself when I set my
default from the customize/general memu item of the original (BMS kit)
impm.  As you suggested, I commented out the default domain line (which
does contain a tab after the colon):

!mcc_pml.gen_defDomain: .dec

The iconic map PM now starts up, but it won't let me open any of my
domains, displaying a popup message window stating "Map Window Message:
entity not valid. Please check spelling.".  It doesn't matter whether I
specify just a domain name, or if I prefix it with a namespace name.

If I use the filter to search for any valid domain names (with default
"*"), it puts up a blank "work in progress" popup window, then another
popup message window stating "Map Window Message: error in Full Name
value".  I can dismiss the second window, but the first one is never
closed. After several attempts at this (including several "work in
progress" popups hanging around), some thread  dies with "Exception in
Mgt Module (id=7), CMA code = 40802c", and I have to kill the impm process.

Am I the only one having these problems?

	- Andy

	Andy,

	Back up a min.  Try the FCL.  do a 
	MCC> DIR DOMAIN *

	Assuming you get some domains, try a 
	MCC> SHOW DOMAIN name MEMBER *

	Try to  create  a domain from FCL.  Put some mebers in it, look
	at them.   Then  try  the  map  opening THAT domain.  This will
	isolate the problem.

	JCE

Yes, FCL works.  The namespace has been in existence for over a year,
supporting a VMS MCC 1.0 and 1.1 system.  I've recently added an ULTRIX
system running MCC T1.2.4, and everything was fine until I installed
the ELM kit.  The FCL on the same ULTRIX system works fine.  I can
reproduce the problem simply by renaming the
/usr/mcc/mmexe/mcc_iconic_map image to use either the BMS kit version
or the ELM kit version.

The namespace contains over 30 domains and around 500 objects.

	- Andy

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Subject: Iconic Map PM problems

Andy, 

I found your note about getting "error in Full Name value" and "entity not 
valid. Please check spelling." errors with the ELMS kit. We're getting exactly 
the same errors here, and I wondered whether you've heard anything more from 
the developers? Is there a fix available other than the one you found to use 
an old mcc_iconic_map image? (If not, do you have a copy of the BMS kit 
version that I could copy over?) 

Thanks for any information you can provide. 

                                        Steve

The errors "error in Full Name value" and "entity not valid. Please
check spelling" are bugs in the image /usr/mcc/mmexe/mcc_iconic_map_pm

Unfortunately, we can not distribute a new version of this executable
until the next release of BMS.

However, there is a workaround. You can use FCL to generate the ELMs
FM Topology map files and then use the old version of the iconic map
to view them.

I have placed a copy of the old mcc_iconic_map_pm that was shipped with
BMS in the following directory:

bhub::/elmkit       for DECnet address 55.894
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root      4390912 Dec 20 06:25 mcc_iconic_map_pm

OR

bhub:/elmkit      for IP address 16.21.16.156

So...

1) place this old version in your /usr/mcc/mmexe/mcc_iconic_map_pm
2) setenv MCC_MAPS /var/mcc/elm
3) run the Spanning Tree Map FM or FDDI Map FM (these programs will
	place the map files in /var/mcc/elm)
4) run the mcc_iconic_map_pm and then 'open domain' or 'read snapshot'
	of the map file that the FM put into /var/mcc/elm. Note that 
	if you did not specify 'autoregister' option, then you must 
	read map file as a snapshot.

Steve
ELMS Engineering