| Title: | DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT. |
| Notice: | Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187 |
| Moderator: | TAEC::BEROUD |
| Created: | Mon Aug 21 1989 |
| Last Modified: | Wed Jun 04 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 6497 |
| Total number of notes: | 27359 |
How to compete with CISCO for network management. One of our biggest customers is looking now for a network management tools. This customer has a significant number of VAX, DEC, Digital Bridges. He has recently decided to go CISCO for extending his LAN. He has also a large number of Siemens (BS2000,SINIX,....). We are in a bad situation positioning DECMCC for several reasons. The man who is responsible of the decision does not have a Digital Background and has been persuaded that he needs a CISCO network management tools called SPECTRUM. This is sold by the CISCO reseller. I have several areas where I would like to get some help. . Does somebody knows SPECTRUM, what are the strongness/weakness regarding the next version of DECMCC (by the way, DECMCC will offer the same features on VMS and on ULTRIX, isn't it) ? . According previous notes, CISCO does not follow the RFC1212. For this reason, we have to do some surgery in order to be able to manage the CISCO boxes. My question are then : - When this surgery is done, will DECMCC offer the same features as SPECTRUM ? - As CISCO seems to be a major provider in numerous fields, does it exist a official agreement/plan ( note 2177.1 ???) we could use to position DECMCC ? . Does it exist somewhere in Europe a site that is managing Cisco boxes with DECMCC which could be used as reference/visit ? . Does it exists somewhere in Europe a site that has some experience / plans for managing SIEMENS boxes with DECMCC ? This is really critical for Digital. Loosing this, would certainly delayed DECMCC in this site (which is DECNET phase V pilot for Belgium/Luxembourg). Thanks and Regards Pierre - EIS Luxembourg -
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| 2198.1 | you fighting cabletron too? | ENUF::GASSMAN | Tue Jan 28 1992 08:20 | 12 | |
SPECTRUM is a cabletron product - the only reason I'd see cisco selling
it would be if they are selling your customer their cisco router cards
to be put into the cabletron smart-hub. SPECTRUM is also very costly,
and has sold very few. They have made some far-out marketing claims
about their product and word on the street is that not everything they
claim is there. (pot calling the kettle black?) Cisco's typical
offering is called NET-CENTRAL. I haven't heard that it does anything
special that MSU or MCC can't do, once the cisco MIB is imported into
it. You may have to bid some services to write some alarms and
generate some reports, but should be able to make the customer happy.
bill
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| 2198.2 | exit | PA::E_HATEM | Fri Jan 31 1992 17:56 | 26 | |
Pierre,
> . According previous notes, CISCO does not follow the RFC1212. For this
>reason, we have to do some surgery in order to be able to manage the CISCO
>boxes. My question are then :
> - When this surgery is done, will DECMCC offer the same features as
>SPECTRUM ?
> - As CISCO seems to be a major provider in numerous fields, does it
>exist a official agreement/plan ( note 2177.1 ???) we could use to position
>DECMCC ?
we do have a Cisco mib that works with DECmcc, so you can can manage
Cisco using DECmcc/SNMP-AM.
the mIB is located pA::DKB100:[PUBLIC]CISCO_MIBDEF.TXT
> . Does it exist somewhere in Europe a site that is managing Cisco boxes
>with DECMCC which could be used as reference/visit ?
NOT SURE, but Mark Malaise would be a good person to check with.
Mark is at BON1::MALAISE
/elias
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| 2198.3 | Set the playing field to DECmcc's benefit | BILFSH::PAQUET | Mon Feb 10 1992 15:58 | 17 | |
I do not believe that there is another product on the market that can manage this environment. You have listed : VAXes DECnet (IV & V) DECbridges TCP/IP (CISCO & Siemens) Spectrum as it exists today can only manage TCP/IP, whereas DECmcc can manage all of the above since V1.1. regards ray | |||||