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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

2090.0. "access violation on stm autotop" by NSCRUE::KEANE (U.S. NIS Service Development and Delivery) Mon Jan 13 1992 15:57

    
     I think I'm missing something on the stm autotopology.
    
    I am running VMS V5.4, BMS T1.2.4 and the new elms am.
    
    I run the stm listener and find several bridges. I then use the impm
    to pick the automap with the autoregister default. Below is the access
    violation information. PC is always consistent.
    
    As an aside I also tried this on a V5.5 VMS system and saw identical
    results.
    
    I saw no problems during the elm am install on either system.
    
    Thanks,
    Scott
    
    *** Spanning Tree Map FM (STM_FM) T1.2.4 Messages ***
    
    
    (I)  Generating spanning tree map for domain DSP_NS:.mcc.domain.cxn1.
    
    (I)  Building autoregistration command/script file...
    
    (I)  No registered bridges found in the mcc registry.
    
    (I)  Created Autoregistration command/script file:
    mcc_stm_cxn1_autoreg.com
    
    (I)  Polling bridges for spanning tree attributes...
    
    (I)  Building logical spanning tree topology map...
    
    (I)  Writing topology map file...
    %Thread 15 terminating with exception:
    %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual
    address=00000000, PC
    =201C0000, PSL=00E793CC
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2090.1more informationNSCRUE::KEANEU.S. NIS Service Development and DeliveryMon Jan 13 1992 16:4591
    
    More info. Here are the results when run from the command line.
    
    *** Spanning Tree Map FM (STM_FM) T1.2.4 Messages ***
    
    
    (I)  Generating spanning tree map for domain spanning_tree_map.
    
    (I)  Building autoregistration command/script file...
    
    (I)  No registered bridges found in the mcc registry.
    
    (I)  Created Autoregistration command/script file:
    mcc_stm_spanning_tree_map_aut
    oreg.com
    
    (I)  Polling bridges for spanning tree attributes...
    
    (I)  Building logical spanning tree topology map...
    
    (I)  Writing topology map file...
    ERROR2!!
    
    (E)  Error opening map file for domain: spanning_tree_map
    %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual
    address=0000001D, PC
    =0000B427, PSL=03C00000
    %TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows
    module name     routine name                     line       rel PC   
    abs PC
    
                                                               0000B427 
    0000B427
                                                               004B5625 
    004B5625
                                                               004B3DA5 
    004B3DA5
                                                               004B399C 
    004B399C
                                                               004AFAA1 
    004AFAA1
                                                               004AF44C 
    004AF44C
                                                               000AA795 
    000AA795
                                                               00083FC1 
    00083FC1
                                                               0007E9B8 
    0007E9B8
                                                               0008DFB1 
    0008DFB1
                                                               000AA89D 
    000AA89D
                                                               000F1B2C 
    000F1B2C
                                                               000B3483 
    000B3483
                                                               000B31E3 
    000B31E3
                                                               000B3139 
    000B3139
                                                               000B2B7B 
    000B2B7B
                                                               000B262C 
    000B262C
                                                               000B253B 
    000B253B
                                                               001C705C 
    001C705C
                                                               001C7D40 
    001C7D40
                                                               001C6871 
    001C6871
                                                               001C9861 
    001C9861
                                                               001C8C36 
    001C8C36
                                                               001C5D3C 
    001C5D3C
                                                               001C4584 
    001C4584
                                                               000C6E9A 
    000C6E9A
    MCC_MAIN        main                             8258      00000208 
    00001E3C
                                                               000056F7 
    000056F7
    MCC_KERNEL_INIT MCC_KERNEL_INITIALIZE             163      00000027 
    0000572B
                                                               000056D2 
    000056D2
2090.2Domain must be created before running stm_fmQUIVER::HAROKOPUSTue Jan 14 1992 10:4715
My guess is that the domain spanning_tree_map does not exist and this is why
you are having this problem.  The IMPM uses the in domain qualifier to pass
in the domain name.  If no domain is opened then the stm fm is using a
default domain name (spanning_tree_map).  However, it does not create this 
domain.   This is a problem that I plan to fix.     

If you want to run stm fm using FCL use the in domain qualifier and specify
a domain that exists.  i.e.

mcc>create domain tree_map
mcc>automap mcc 0 stm_fm autoregister=true, in domain=tree_map.

Sorry for the confusion.

Bob
2090.3domain exists in impm scenarioNSCRUE::KEANEU.S. NIS Service Development and DeliveryTue Jan 14 1992 11:1515
 Hi Bob,
   
  Thanks for the info. In my .1 you are right. I did not specify a domain and
I remember reading that in the release notes of autopology guide.

 However, when I was in the impm i started in a domain called cxn1, created
a sub domain called bridges and had moved into that domain before started the
autotopology process. Is there something else I need to do there to make
sure that the proper domain is specified? I did notice that even when I was
in domain bridges the map files were still created with the cxn1 domain name.

 Thanks,
 Scott
 
2090.4That's a known bugQUIVER::HAROKOPUSTue Jan 14 1992 11:4114
Hi Scott,

That's a known bug with the LAN Autotopology PM.  It is using the root 
domain parameter instead of the in domain qualifier (I lied before) to get
the domain name from the IMPM.  Therefore, hierarchiccal domains will not 
work properly as it  will always use the root domain (as you have seen).

The only work around is open each domain explicitly from the File menu
and make sure that the there are no domains above in the hierarchy.  

Bob


P.S.  How does your map look?
2090.5still no mapNSCRUE::KEANEU.S. NIS Service Development and DeliveryTue Jan 14 1992 12:2013
    
    Bob,
    
     I don't think that I'm running into domain problems any longer.
    I removed the bridges subdomain from under cxn1 and used the file pull
    down to create a new domain. The domain name is .mcc.domain.bridges and
    there are no domains above it. I still get the same access violation
    information from within the impm. When I run the automap command from
    the fcl I also get the access violation but no longer see the "error2"
    message. Any other ideas? 
    
    Thanks,
    Scott
2090.6Need more infoQUIVER::HAROKOPUSTue Jan 14 1992 13:3811
Hi Scott,

The access violation is occuring when the map file is being built.  Is there
a map file being created by the stm fm before it dies or is it still 
failing on the map file open?



Thanks,

Bob
2090.7requested infoNSCRUE::KEANEU.S. NIS Service Development and DeliveryTue Jan 14 1992 15:4834
    
    Bob,
    
    A new map file is being created, although not where mcc_maps is
    pointing. Once the access violation occurs the impm is dead so I
    control_y out at the decterm. Here is the contents of the map file.
    
    Directory SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]
    
    MCC_2394000400AA000001CAD286CF59CD20.MCC_MAP_BRIDGES;1
                              1/3
    
    Total of 1 file, 1/3 blocks.
    $ ty MCC_2394000400AA000001CAD286CF59CD20.MCC_MAP_BRIDGES;1
     version 0
     domain DSP_NS:.mcc.domain.bridges
     last_x 0.975000 last_y -0.333000
    
     object_type 7
       text Spanning Tree Root:  08-00-2B-0F-B1-AE
       x 1.300000 y 0.449550
    
     object_type 7
       text Spanning Tree Mode:  LAN Bridge 100 Mode
       x 1.300000 y 0.416250
    
    Along a different line...
    While reading the release notes I saw a section that says that a second
    mcc window is opened while the automap is running. I don't know what it
    is worth but the only time I have seen this happen is when I purposely
    tried to start the autotopology without starting the elm am first.
    
    Thanks,
    Scott
2090.8the root bridge was the keyNSCRUE::KEANEU.S. NIS Service Development and DeliveryTue Jan 14 1992 19:0216
    
    Bob,
    
    You were right. The segment I was running the listener on is connected
    to the rest of the building network via a bridge that is filtering
    sysid messages, and therefore I never find the root bridge. I
    reconfigured my segment a little so that I created a root bridge that
    I could find. I didn't end up with any complete maps because of
    my configuration, but did get by without the access violation.
    
    I'll expermient further when I can create a more involved private lan
    to work with. 
    
    Thanks for all the help.
    
    Scott
2090.9QUIVER::HAROKOPUSWed Jan 15 1992 09:436
Thanks Scott,

I'll be working on the error handling so that acc-vio won't occur in 
the future.  Keep me posted on how it goes.

Bob
2090.10a little strange behaviourNSCRUE::KEANEU.S. NIS Service Development and DeliveryFri Jan 17 1992 14:1620

 Bob,

   Thought you might be interested in this.

  I finally got several lan bridges set up in a private lan where I could 
make sure that the listener found the root bridge. After checking to see that
the listener knew about all the bridges I tried to start the autotopoloy from
the impm and got the following error:

 Map window message

   Dispatch local management module file access error during probe

 I then went to the fcl and issued the automap command and it went through a
successful map build. After it worked correctly from fcl the failure from the
impm cleared up.

 Scott
2090.11I'll see if I can reproduce itQUIVER::HAROKOPUSMon Jan 20 1992 10:217
Scott,

I've never seen that problem before, but I'll look into it.

Thanks,

Bob