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| 2080.1 | What were you running? | TOOK::MINTZ | Erik Mintz, DECmcc Development | Mon Jan 13 1992 09:10 | 5 |
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I assume this is VMS, but what version of DECmcc are you running?
What were you trying to do with the help file builder when the error occured?
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| 2080.2 | more details ..... | WOTVAX::PURNELLR | Life, it's not what I thought it was ! | Mon Jan 13 1992 11:39 | 17 |
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Yes,
I was rather vague !
VMS system, DECmcc BMS V1.1, with DECmcc FDA FM UT1.1, TSAM AM V1.0,
TCP/IP SNMP AM V1.1 & ELM AM V1.0
I was trying to re-build the help libraries as from the DECmcc line
interface there was no help available.
Does this help ?
:*(
Rex
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| 2080.3 | I'm looking at HFB now ! | NANOVX::ROBERTS | Keith Roberts - DECmcc Toolkit Team | Tue Jan 14 1992 09:32 | 11 |
| Rex & Ric
Amazing - I'm working on HFB today, and just saw the same error!! So I'll
check it out.
Was the problem reproducable?
btw - there are some performance enhancements which make HFB run ~ 5 times
faster!
/keith
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| 2080.4 | < More Information > | WOTVAX::PURNELLR | Life, it's not what I thought it was ! | Tue Jan 14 1992 11:27 | 17 |
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Keith,
Yes the problem occurred each time we attempted a build. However.....
We did some checking, and we found that the TSAM help file has 200+
byte records. Having removed this file the build got through the sort
for the character cell topics but then failed during the windows help
sort with similar error messages. We haven't had time to track down any
other help files with "large" record sizes.
Could we be on the right track ?
Thanx & regards
Rex & Rich.
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| 2080.5 | < Yet more information.> | WOTVAX::PURNELLR | Life, it's not what I thought it was ! | Tue Jan 14 1992 14:48 | 16 |
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Keith,
A further update to .4 .
We have now managed to build the help libraries successfully !!!!
By deleting all the .HLB & .TOP files in the mcc_common area and
doing a complete build everything worked fine. (TSAM excluded)
We will retrace those steps yet again with the TSAM help file
included and post the result tomorrow am.
regards,
Rex & Rich.
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| 2080.6 | Old tempoary files | NANOVX::ROBERTS | Keith Roberts - DECmcc Toolkit Team | Tue Jan 14 1992 15:21 | 5 |
| Yes, I believe the .TOP and other temporary files should be deleted before
running HFB -- I should have the init code delete these files.
thanks,
keith
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| 2080.7 | RMS record length attribute? | TOOK::CAREY | | Tue Jan 14 1992 16:31 | 17 |
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Looking Waaaaaay back in my memory, I believe I ran into something like
this a long time ago.... We weren't in as dynamic an environment then
and possibly deferred it.
The problem had something to do with the variable length record format.
On creation, the system is ingenious enough to create the .HLB files
with the right record length. If all of the files aren't deleted,
sometimes it seems to re-create the file with the same attributes as
the original -- including a too low upper limit on the record length if
the new help file stuff has some longer records.
Keith, I would start my search with the file creation and see if that
makes sense.
-Jim
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| 2080.8 | < Success !!!! > | WOTVAX::PURNELLR | Life, it's not what I thought it was ! | Wed Jan 15 1992 03:41 | 11 |
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Keith,
The complete build (including the TSAM help file) completed O.K.
The answer lies in deleting the "old" files prior to a new build.
Thanks for your prompt response and efforts.
Rex & Rich.
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| 2080.9 | changes to HFB initialization | NANOVX::ROBERTS | Keith Roberts - DECmcc Toolkit Team | Wed Jan 15 1992 09:51 | 12 |
| I will be adding to the HFB initialization - to delete any 'old' temporary
files. Thanks for checking this out.
Oh - Help File Builder execution time has been reduced:
from 1 Hour and 20 Minutes
to 13 Minutes
The timing was done on a VAX 3100 model 38 using *all* the HELP files from
MCC_COMMON... 8)
/keith
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| 2080.10 | old hfb problem with temporary files hanging around | TOOK::CALLANDER | MCC = My Constant Companion | Fri Jan 17 1992 10:46 | 17 |
| RE: carey's note
HFB (and i don't know what work Keith has done to fix this yet) used to
have a problem where the old temporary files were left hanging around.
We did this because HFB was primarily a midnight hack and the temp
files were our only clue to debugging problems. The major problem with
this was that if they were still around the next time you built help
we would attempt to append to them, and that could cause HFB major
problems. The older release notes should have had a notice that you
neeed to delete these prior to doing a build of a new help file. I
thought the template installation procedures we gave out to MM
developers actually put this command in there (but that could have been
lost with time as people forgot the problem). My understanding from
Keiths mail was that the use of the temporary files has been
modified/eliminated in the new version.
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| 2080.11 | HFB deletes temporary files during initialization | NANOVX::ROBERTS | Keith Roberts - DECmcc Toolkit Team | Fri Jan 17 1992 13:46 | 5 |
| The DECmcc/VMS Help File Builder for v1.2 will now delete any temporary
files created from previous builds. It also runs *much* faster (by about
a factor of 8) and can detect duplicate topic keys.
/keith
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