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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

1911.0. "Cannot get text on graph display" by RDGENG::PRATT () Tue Dec 10 1991 12:57

I'm running the Ultrix kit with a local mir.

When using the graph utility to look at any node or node4 counter, then I get 
the graphs displayed, but there is no text, so I do not know what the scales on
the axis are, nor which counters I am polling.

Any clues?

Ian
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1911.1What colors are you using?TOOK::R_SPENCENets don't fail me now...Tue Dec 10 1991 13:098
    What colors are you using?
    
    The lables are always (current restriction) black.
    
    If you have black windows then black on black has less than desirable
    contrast.
    
    s/rob
1911.2prob when displaying to ultrix??JETSAM::WOODCOCKTue Dec 10 1991 16:0811
Hi all,

I'm also seeing this problem. It doesn't appear to be a color problem. Graph
works for me when I use the work station running MCC, that is, I see all
text involved. When I set display is when I loose the text portions. MCC
itself is running on VMS 5.4-2. The failed text display is seen when displaying
to an Ultrix node using IP transport. Both stations are color. Does this
shed any light to the problem and/or solution??

best regards,
brad...
1911.3RACER::daveAttending The School of Comparative IrrevelevanceTue Dec 10 1991 16:527
I have "played" with this from (ultrix,vms) with display set to 
(Ultrix,VMS,VT1200) and have not had any problem other than getting the "right"
sets of colours selected.  Note that the Ultrix system I have displays
the letters in white, and the axis in black, so I run with a "gray" window that
allows me to see both sets of markings. This part of the graph package really
needs to have some way to set these colours and have real resource names
attached to them. (ala Icons, severitys and lines)
1911.4will try different backgroundJETSAM::WOODCOCKTue Dec 10 1991 17:1815
>I have "played" with this from (ultrix,vms) with display set to 
>(Ultrix,VMS,VT1200) and have not had any problem other than getting the "right"
>sets of colours selected.  Note that the Ultrix system I have displays
>the letters in white, and the axis in black, so I run with a "gray" window that
>allows me to see both sets of markings. This part of the graph package really
>needs to have some way to set these colours and have real resource names
>attached to them. (ala Icons, severitys and lines)

Hi Dave,

I thought I was ok because the VMS system was displaying the text in black
on a white background. I guess I will 'play' with the colors to something
off-white for the background. Thanks for the info.

brad...
1911.5Not black on blackRDGENG::PRATTMon Dec 16 1991 11:019
Hi,

I am using red text on a very pale blue background, so I would have thought that
black would show up. I have just pushed a window out to another workstation that
has black text, and I now get the text displayed in the graph window correctly.
Will this restriction be removed in the future, as I don't particularly want to
change my workstation colours.

Ian
1911.6Crazy color choicePJWL::LAMBPeter Lamb - GSG Santa Clara MAIL=MUTTON::LAMBFri Jan 03 1992 13:0417
re .3 

>Note that the Ultrix system I have displays
>the letters in white, and the axis in black, so I run with a "gray" window that
>allows me to see both sets of markings.

Apparently, the default is black lines with white text.  In my opionion it 
doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that this is not a good idea...
I am running on a color decstation (ultrix) with the standard screens (white
background) and couldn't figure out why I couldn't see the text.  I would
suggest that unless you want LOTS of TSC calls that you consider that many
customers will have a similar configuration as myself (ie plain vanilla 
DECwindows).

Regards,

Peter Lamb
1911.7QAR 2051TOOK::MINTZErik Mintz, DECmcc DevelopmentTue Jan 07 1992 09:152
Entered as QAR 2051 in mcc_internal