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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
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Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
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1902.0. "T1.2.3 iconic map questions" by HAZARD::BAKER (Paul Baker, UK Product and Technology Group - 844 3311) Mon Dec 09 1991 16:19

Three questions on T1.2.3

1 - Why, when looking down or up from an entily or domain does the window get
    cleared by a downwards wipe, then have the original display recreated, get
    cleared again and then finally paint the net display?

2 - Why, when closing the navigation window, does the main window get popped
    in front of any other windows (eg the graph display)?

3 - I notice that the bridge entity class no longer appears in the toolbox - 
    how long until this is available?

Paul.

BTW: - I think the new graph feature is magic - well done!!!
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1902.1Bridge no longer part of BMSTOOK::MINTZErik MintzMon Dec 09 1991 16:408
>3 - I notice that the bridge entity class no longer appears in the toolbox - 
>    how long until this is available?

The bridge AM has been removed from the BMS package (see the packaging
matrix; there is a pointer in the kit announcement memo).

I'm not sure when the Extended LAN Management package will be released.

1902.2DECmcc ELM (VMS) by year-endCHRISB::BRIENENDECmcc Bridge|Station|SNMP Management.Mon Dec 09 1991 17:2225
 RE: 1902.1

>>3 - I notice that the bridge entity class no longer appears in the toolbox - 
>>    how long until this is available?
>
>The bridge AM has been removed from the BMS package (see the packaging
>matrix; there is a pointer in the kit announcement memo).
>
>I'm not sure when the Extended LAN Management package will be released.


 The latest information I have is that LAN BU is targeting 27-December
for release of the DECmcc ELM EFT kit on VMS. This kit will layer on the
DECmcc BMS V1.2 EFT kit and include:

	- Bridge AM
	- Concentrator AM
	- FDDI (Station) AM
	- Spanning Tree Map FM
	- FDDI Ring Map FM

 The DECmcc ELM EFT kit for ULTRIX/RISC will probably be available
later...

						Chris
1902.3Why bridge autoconfig with BMS, but no bridge AM?HAZARD::BAKERPaul Baker, UK Product and Technology Group - 844 3311Mon Dec 09 1991 18:268
Re .1 and .2

Can anyone explain why, looking at the module/packaging matrix, the Bridge
Autoconfig FM ships as part of DECmcc-BMS, but the Bridge AM is an option? I
would have thought that for the Bridge Autoconfig FM to work the Bridge AM
was a pre-requisite.

Paul.
1902.4*Please* contact Steve Lane for packagingBSYBEE::EGOLFJohn C. Egolf LKG2-2/T02 x226-7874Mon Dec 09 1991 19:359
	Please  contact    Steve    Lane    for    any/all    packaging
	issues/questions.  Packaging  is  a  real  rathole, many people
	have been involved and  I  think it is fair to say that "nobody
	disagrees", rather than saying that "everybody agrees".

	In  an  effort  to keep  the  notes  down,  pls  contact  Steve
	directly. 

	JCE
1902.5That's Just The Way It IsDELNI::S_LANEWed Dec 11 1991 09:2528
    
    
    Paul,
    
    To explain why a particular module or modules may or may not be
    included in a package would require the recounting of too many
    meetings.  Suffice it to say that it were several packaging decisions
    made by the powers that be in Product Management, Product Marketing, and
    Engineering and that one such decision was NOT to include the Bridge AM 
    in the BMS V1.2 package.   Your assumption is correct that the Bridge
    AM or, more precisely, the DECmcc ELM AM package (which includes the
    Brdige, Concentrator, and FDDI AMs) will be required to do Autoregistration
    /Autoconfiguration for those devices.  By the same token, the PA FM (or 
    Performance Statistics Package, if you prefer), supports Bridge statistics 
    but a BMS customer would still have to purchase the DECmcc ELM AM package 
    to get the necessary bridge counters.  The alternative to this "a la carte"
    approach, of course, is to purchase the EMS package which includes all our 
    modules.  Also, just as there have been packaging changes from V1.1 to 
    V1.2, you can expect further changes as we go to V2.0 or whatever.  It's 
    an evolutionary process.
    
    Rgds,
    
    Steve
    
    includes all the available modules.  There are lots
    of different pre-requisites for different DECmcc packages.  Most of
    them are not included and have to be purchased separately.     
1902.6Thanks - any answers for the other questions? HAZARD::BAKERPaul Baker, UK Product and Technology Group - 844 3311Fri Dec 13 1991 08:0910
Re .5

Thanks Steve, I can imagine the discussions that went on to decide the packaging 
strategy. I only hope the Sales force understand all the pre-requisites...-)

Re .0

Anyone care to comment on questions 1 and 2, please.

Paul.
1902.7multiple refresh is an error - or so I was toldTOOK::CALLANDERMCC = My Constant CompanionTue Jan 14 1992 17:149
    
    I am not from that team, but when I last asked those questions a 
    few weeks ago I was told (RE questions 1 and 2) that the multiple
    refreshs was being worked, and that the popping the map to the
    front had to do with how they set focus, and that they were
    investigating how is should work (customer expectations).
    
    jill