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| 1750.1 | MCC> RESET BRIDGE bridge-id FORW DATABASE MANUAL MODE=TRUE | SAAR::B_GOODWIN | Time is an illusion... | Thu Oct 31 1991 15:30 | 8 |
| If your are useing DECmcc ELM V1.0, in the manual at page 4-24 Resetting the
Forwarding Database. The comand given is:
MCC> RESET BRIDGE bridge-id FORW DATABASE MANUAL MODE=TRUE
I haven't personally tried the command, but it's suppose to reset your
forwarding database and set manual mode, you will have to manually enter
the address' you want to forward.
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| 1750.2 | Depends on the Bridge Model | QUIVER::CMIP::CHILDS | Ed Childs | Fri Nov 01 1991 11:31 | 14 |
| | Is there a way to disable learning on a LB150/200 using the Bridge AM?
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| MCC> RESET BRIDGE bridge-id FORW DATABASE MANUAL MODE=TRUE
This command works for LAN Bridge 200 and DECbridge 500 Series.
There is no Manual Mode attribute for the DEBET LAN Bridge 100 or 150.
For DECbridge 600 Series, each of the four lines has a Manual Mode
attribute which disables learning for each line. To disable learning
for all lines on a DECbridge 600 issues these commands:
MCC> SET BRIDGE bridge-id LINE * MANUAL MODE=TRUE
MCC> RESET BRIDGE bridge-id FORW DATABASE
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| 1750.3 | Clarification? | MAIL::CLAYTON | Merlin Clayton DTN 445-7217 | Mon Nov 04 1991 10:27 | 21 |
| Doesn't RBMS provide the capability to set a LB200 into manual mode using
a similar command syntax such as:
| RBMS> SET BRIDGE bridge-id FORW DATABASE MANUAL MODE=TRUE
If so, my next question is, why doesn't the standard Bridge AM provide this
capability in DECmcc? Why is the optional DECelm(s) AM required to support
the same level of functionality as RBMS?
We've been telling our customers, and potential customers, of DECmcc SMS
that if they buy SMS today, or yesterday, A-L-L of the functionality of
the point products - RBMS/ELMS, TSM, ETHERnim, LTM - would be superceeded
and replaced by the DECmcc AMs as they were released. And furthermore, if
they purchased software update service for the SMS package, the AMs required
to replace the functionality of the point products would automatically be
sent to them at no additional charge.
Is the DEMelm AM an optional module not included with BMS or SMS? If
so, am I missing something here?
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| 1750.4 | | QUIVER::CMIP::CHILDS | Ed Childs | Mon Nov 04 1991 11:02 | 62 |
| | Doesn't RBMS provide the capability to set a LB200 into manual mode using
| a similar command syntax such as:
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| RBMS> SET BRIDGE bridge-id FORW DATABASE MANUAL MODE=TRUE
Yes. For a LAN Bridge 200 the syntax is:
MCC> RESET BRIDGE bridge-id FORW DATABASE MANUAL MODE=TRUE
But someone asked the question about a LB150/200. You cannot set
Manual Mode on a LAN Bridge 150. That bridge model does not have a
Manual Mode attribute. There is no bridge protocol packet you can cook
up and send down the wire to instruct a LAN Bridge 150 to disable
learning -- the hardware/firmware in the box will not recognize the
Manual Mode code.
The MCC Bridge Access Module supports five different bridge models:
LAN Bridge 100
LAN Bridge 150
LAN Bridge 200
DECbridge 500 Series
DECbridge 600 Series
Each of these bridges are managed with the RBMS protocol, but each
bridge model has different sub-entities and attributes. For example, a
LAN Bridge 100 does not have a Protocol Database.
| If so, my next question is, why doesn't the standard Bridge AM provide this
| capability in DECmcc? Why is the optional DECelm(s) AM required to support
| the same level of functionality as RBMS?
That is not the case. The original Bridge AM (part of BMS) supported
the LAN Bridge 200. The first ELM package that started shipping over
the summer contained enhancements to support the DECbridge 600 series
and the DECconcentrator 500 and was a superset of the old Bridge AM.
There is no optional or advanced features Bridge AM.
| We've been telling our customers, and potential customers, of DECmcc SMS
| that if they buy SMS today, or yesterday, A-L-L of the functionality of
| the point products - RBMS/ELMS, TSM, ETHERnim, LTM - would be superceeded
| and replaced by the DECmcc AMs as they were released.
That is certainly the intention. The currently available DECmcc ELM
contains all of the features of DECelms and RBMS. I do not know of any
features of DECelms or RBMS that are not present in the Bridge and
Concentrator AMs. If there are missing features, they should be
reported.
| Is the DEMelm AM an optional module not included with BMS or SMS? If
| so, am I missing something here?
For DECmcc V1.2, I believe that there will no longer be a package
called SMS. The EMS package will contain all the things that SMS
contained.
The soon-to-be-field-tested next version of the ELM package will
contain the latest and greatest Bridge AM, Concentrator AM, and FDDI
AM, as well as a bridge Spanning Tree Map FM and FDDI Ring Map FM.
This next ELM package will not be included in the BMS kit.
/* Ed */
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| 1750.5 | More Clarification | MAIL::CLAYTON | Merlin Clayton DTN 445-7217 | Mon Nov 04 1991 12:58 | 27 |
| Re: -1
| But someone asked the question about a LB150/200. You cannot set
| Manual Mode on a LAN Bridge 150.
I'm refering specifically to the feature of the LB200 that provides this
capability. I now understand that it was never a feature of the LB150.
| That is not the case. The original Bridge AM (part of BMS) supported
| the LAN Bridge 200. The first ELM package that started shipping over
| the summer contained enhancements to support the DECbridge 600 series
| and the DECconcentrator 500 and was a superset of the old Bridge AM.
| There is no optional or advanced features Bridge AM.
What I understood you to say in .2 was that to provide this feature for a
LB200 one must have the DECelm AM installed. I assumed then that the
standard Bridge AM would not turn off learning. However, this was, and is,
a capability of RBMS. Should not this also be a capability of the Bridge AM?
Am I missing the point here? Is the Bridge AM being replaced by the DECelm
AM? Why do we need one that is a superset of the other?
Thanks for the feedback so far.
Mgc
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| 1750.6 | Still more clarification :-) | CHRISB::BRIENEN | DECmcc Bridge|Station|SNMP Management. | Mon Nov 04 1991 14:14 | 41 |
| > | That is not the case. The original Bridge AM (part of BMS) supported
> | the LAN Bridge 200. The first ELM package that started shipping over
> | the summer contained enhancements to support the DECbridge 600 series
> | and the DECconcentrator 500 and was a superset of the old Bridge AM.
> | There is no optional or advanced features Bridge AM.
>
> What I understood you to say in .2 was that to provide this feature for a
> LB200 one must have the DECelm AM installed. I assumed then that the
> standard Bridge AM would not turn off learning. However, this was, and is,
> a capability of RBMS. Should not this also be a capability of the Bridge AM?
No, full support for the LB100, LB150 and LB200 were provided in the
Bridge AM that shipped with DECmcc V1.1 BMS. This functionality included
the RESET MANUAL MODE command (In fact, I think this functionality
was supported in Bridge AM V1.0 as well).
What the DECelm AM "version" of Bridge AM added was support for the
DECbridge 500 and 600 series.
>
> Am I missing the point here? Is the Bridge AM being replaced by the DECelm
> AM? Why do we need one that is a superset of the other?
Some day DECmcc packages will be reasonably named...
The "DECmcc ELM AM" (who is calling it DECelm AM?) is a PACKAGE that
consists of assorted AMs and FMs. It was designed to layer onto the
DECmcc DIRECTOR and provide a DECelms replacement at reasonable cost
(Director is "free"). One of the AMs on the DECmcc ELM AM V1.0 package
was Bridge AM V1.2 (an enhanced version of Bridge AM V1.1); another was
Concentrator AM V1.0 (manages the DECconcentrator 500).
Note that Bridge AM V1.1 shipped as part of DECmcc V1.1 BMS.
It looks like Bridge AM V1.3 might actually ship as part of
DECmcc V1.2 BMS (or so I heard this morning - this packaging stuff
seems to be changing daily...).
Hope this helps.
Chris
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