Conference azur::mcc

Warren,

	1) At this time this is the only planned support for SynOptics AM.
		The SynOptics private MIB will be on the SNMP AM V1.1 kit,
		which will ship at the end of Oct. (just went to SSB).

	2) Good place to ask.

	Please let me know if there are any other questions that I can answer.

JonG

To my knowledge, SNMP support for SYNOPTICS is all that DECmcc is
currently providing.

What functions would a SYNOPTICS AM provide that are not provided by
the TCP/IP SNMP AM V1.1 (after loading in the SYNOPTICS MIB, of course).

    Warren,	
    	Synoptics are migrating their user base from their PC based
    management station (called a CCA) to a SNMP based management product. 
    The SNMP mib extensions when loaded into DECmcc will provide your
    customer access to the same information as Synoptics use in their new
    SNMP based manager. What will be missing is the user application
    which takes the results from the SNMP queries and draws the pretty
    pictures of the concentrators with the lights flashing etc. I have
    heard that Synoptics have demonstrated this user interface on our
    MSU station using it's snmp API, and local Synoptics reps have
    mentioned that this feature may be soon playing on a DECmcc station.
    I'll leave it others here to confirm/deny that rumor.
    
    - Mike

    Indeed, Synoptics have ported their application to ULTRIX, and by using
    the "user customized menu" feature of MSU, their application may be
    called from MSU.  Digital has no resell agreement with Synoptics for
    this as a product, but MSU is also used as a service product, and the 
    Synoptics piece will be used for some NETsupport contracts.  It will
    also be available for demo at Interop next week.  There have been
    discussions about the need for showing simulations of actual products
    in an integrated product.  The market clearly wants it - and are voting
    with their dollars.  Perhaps when Digital enters the smarthub business,
    a synoptics type of product will emerge, that can also handle Synoptics
    and Cabletron type of products as well.  If you are in a tatical sales
    situation, sell MSU, and contact the NETsupport folks about getting the
    Synoptics piece installed.  There is no smooth path to that yet, but
    if enough people get it working, we'll figure out how to make the deal
    with Synoptics to make it easier.
    
    bill

    I would like to thank everyone so far for the quick responses.  The
    information is greatly appreciated.  I will also try and talk to some
    of the SYNOPTICS folks locally to see if I can find out what's their
    understanding of what is going on.  I'll post a reply letting everyone
    know what I find out.
    
    
    
    						Thanks,
    						Warren

	re .4

>    Indeed, Synoptics have ported their application to ULTRIX, and by using
>    the "user customized menu" feature of MSU, their application may be
>    called from MSU.  Digital has no resell agreement with Synoptics for

	Because it  runs on Ultrix, this should also be usable from the
	DECmcc V1.2 Ultrix platform, called form the Iconic Map PM.  We
	plan to  be testing this during the up coming field test.

	JCE
	

	I was wondering if the person in .4 has played with the synoptics
	application on an ULTRIX system?  If so, does it require the MSU
	software to be installed and is it an X based application?

	I have a customer that is very interested.  They will be purchasing
	the DECmcc Station and TCP/IP AM, but would still like to have the
	nice Synoptics device graphical interface.  I was hoping that if
	we dont plan on providing this on VMS the user could install it on
	their ULTRIX system and access it from there.

	Has there been any update on whether there are plans by us or 
	synoptics to provide this on VMS?  If so the customer is definately
	willing to wait otherwise this other option may be very viable.

	Thanks.

    I need an update as to the status, if any, of a possible Synoptics PM
    that would display their hubs in a nice graphical format.  In .4, John
    mentioned that this was going to be tested with the DECmcc for Ultrix
    product?  Was it tested, and if so, does it work?  Will we have a flashly 
    GUI for Synoptics, Cisco, and our hubs under DECmcc sometime in the
    future?
                                                             
    Regards,
    
    Joanne

    Synoptics will announce later this month that they have ported their
    'flashy' application to Digital, HP, and IBM platforms.  In the case of
    Digital, it's the MSU platform.  Synoptics very very much wanted to be
    on the MCC platform too - but it was far from clear how they would go
    about doing it.  The MCC platform needs to publish a clear and simple
    method for loose integration, along with hints of how tighter
    integration could occur later.  Most vendors are just looking for a
    rich launching API, along with a low level API to issue SNMP calls to.
    
    bill

    The synoptics application can also be launched from inside of
    DECmcc/Director as well, and with the user of the snmp 
    AM and the Alarms and Notification services, you can also
    monitor traps from the synoptics boxes and have rules and
    icon changes on the map based on the use of their mibs through
    the SNMP AM.