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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

1420.0. "Unable to create domain. DNS problems?" by MLNEDU::GIAMMARINI (Roma Caput Mundi) Thu Aug 29 1991 06:51

    
    
    
	Hi, I'm an instructor and I'm building the class environment for 
the DECmcc courses. I used till now a VAXstation 3100 with DECmcc BMS V1.1 
and DNS 1.1, and it worked quite well. On Monday I copied the disk from the 
original VAXstation 3100 to two new VAXstation 3150. Over the two new 
stations I've reinstalled the DNS and the DECmcc. The result is: 

NOTHING WORK!!! 

From the iconic map I try to create a domain, the DECmcc response is:

17-NOV-1858 00:00:00
The requested operation cannot be completed
MCC Routine Error  %DNS-E-INVALIDNAME, Invalid name

1. Why the message is dated with 17-NOV-1858?
2. I tried with those format for the domain name: DOMAIN
                                                  .DOMAIN
                                                  GUDRUN_NS:.DOMAIN

At this point using another window (that means that I didn't close the 
previous window) I activate the DNS$CONTROL to show the availability of DNS 
typing this command:

DNS> SHO DIR . ATTR DNS$REPLICAS

then the station crashes! I tried n times and the result is always the same
.

Another frequent problem is that DECmcc cannot communicate with DNS server 
even the server is local. The message appearing is:

29-AUG-1991 10:24:00
The requested operation cannot be completed
MCC Routine Error  %DNS-E-NOCOMMUNICATION, Unable to communicate with DNS 
server

Note that before this message the DNS server was reachable, after not any 
more.

Many thanks

Domenico
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1420.1KAOT01::S_HYNDMANThu Aug 29 1991 10:468

 Did you run the dns$change_def_file.com to point to
the new nameserver? Also did you run the dns setup com
files to configure your namespace for mcc?


Scott
1420.2YesMLNEDU::GIAMMARINIRoma Caput MundiThu Aug 29 1991 11:258
    Yes I did, infact I stopped my installation when I started the
    mcc procedure (mcc_dns_node_registration.com)to populate the 
    namespace due MCC error:
    
    %MCC-E-INVALIDIDENT, Invalid entity identifier
    
    Domenico
    
1420.3What worked for me!VCSESU::WADEBill Wade T&N Course DevelopmentTue Sep 03 1991 13:5023
    
    Domenico,
    
    Prior to installing dns did you delete all the files in [dns$server] and 
    the files in sys$system -
    
    	DNS$GLOBAL.GBL;1    
    	DNS$GLOBAL_CACHE.GBL;1
    
    Also, when you install dns answer the question that this is a new
    namespace.
    
    And just to be safe, prior to installing mcc you should delete -
    
    	sys$system:*mcc*.*;*   
        sys$library:*mcc*.*;*
    	mcc_common:*.*;*
    
    After you install mcc and run mcc_common:mcc_dns_setup everything should 
    be fine.
    
    This is what worked for me.
    
1420.4Take care in deleting DNS files!!NSSG::R_SPENCENets don't fail me now...Tue Sep 03 1991 14:2312
    Please note;
    
    Do NOT delete *DNS* accross the whole disk. ONLY delete the files
    specified in the previous note.
    
    Also, if you are on the net, copy
    	NSSG::SYS$PUBLIC:[MCC.S-KIT]AUDIT_MCC.COM and
    	NSSG::SYS$PUBLIC:[MCC.S-KIT]RSM$GET_IMAGE_INFO.EXE
    
    and run the audit. It may tell you some things that need adjusting.
    
    s/rob
1420.5Eureka!!MLNEDU::GIAMMARINIRoma Caput MundiWed Sep 04 1991 12:0030
    Thank you for your suggestions. I fixed the problem today. How?
    
    1 - DNS
    The kit I have is probably an internal kit. Inside the VMS kit there
    are 24 files (.COM and .EXE) for DNS support. When you install the DNS
    the first time is likely to appear that message: the version of some
    files on the system is higher or equal of those on the kit. So they
    won't be copied. That let me think that the kit contains all the DNS
    files...but it is not true! Due the fact I suppose the kit contained
    all the DNS files, I deleted all DNS$*.* over the whole disk and the
    *.GBL in SYS$SYSTEM and DNS$SERVER. During the new installation
    everything was right, the DNS correctly started, but...
    
    2 - DECmcc
    After the DECmcc installation I executed the MCC_STARTUP_BMS and then I
    tried to activate the iconic map (with FCL is the same) and the result
    was that some DNS files weren't on the system: DNS$CLERK_STARTUP.COM,
    DNS$CLERK_STOP.COM, DNS$RTL.EXE, DNS$SHARE.EXE...). THE DNS KIT DIDN'T
    CONTAIN ALL THE DNS FILES. I tried to copy the files above from another
    station; the DECmcc started but didn't manage to register any object
    into the namespace. Using another window with DNS$DISPLAY_TREE or
    DNS$CONTROL to verify the availability of the namespace the station
    sistematically crashed.
    
    3 - Solution
    I reinstalled the VMS, the DNS and the DECmcc...and the notes 1420.3 and
    1420.4 are, of course, right.
    
    Many, many thanks
    Domenico