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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

1262.0. "Remote system management - relation to RSM/DECros?" by IJSAPL::WOODROW (From E101 to VAX and beyond...) Thu Jul 18 1991 06:53

    I hope this is the appropriate conference - I certainly think it
    ultimately should be.
    
    My customer is the Dutch railroad and is planning to have VAX/VMS
    computers in at least eighteen regions, all communicating with one
    another (with DECmessageQ the highly probably transport mechanism).
    While I have certainly recommended DECmcc as the general network, etc.
    monitoring and control mechanism, they are also worried about remote
    system management in general (it is highly unlikely that each region
    will have/need a well-trained system manager).
    
    I have found SPDs for Remote System Manager (RSM - V2.3) and DEC Remote
    Operation Service (DECros - V1.0), but would like to obtain more
    information. Does anyone know of a suitable Notes conference(s)?
    
    Furthermore, there seems to be at least some common point between
    DECros and DECmcc in that they both use ASN.1 in places. Is there any
    real relationship to DECmcc - now or in the future (I know, no futures
    - but maybe thoughts?)
    
    Thanks,
    Peter
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1262.1For RSM, see NOTED::RSMTOOK::MINTZErik MintzThu Jul 18 1991 08:361
I don't know aobout DECros, but RSM has a notes conference NOTED::RSM.
1262.2DECros Notes Conference...TENERE::SILVACarl Silva - Telecom Eng - DTN 828-5339Thu Jul 18 1991 10:434
	TAEC::DEC_ROS for the DECros product.

	carl
1262.3commonalityTOOK::MATTHEWSFri Jul 19 1991 15:459
    DECros is planned to provide CMIP for customers who want to write
    their own network management applications. DECmcc on the other hand
    layers an access module on top of a protocol implementation so that
    customers do not have to write their own management applications.
    
    Both contain implementations of CMIP. Some future DECmcc components
    may used DECros as a component.
    
    wally
1262.4Thanks for pointers and discussionIJSAPL::WOODROWFrom E101 to VAX and beyond...Sun Jul 21 1991 12:383
    Thanks very much for the pointers and discussion.
    
    Peter
1262.5ROS is not the hard partNAC::ENGLANDMon Jul 22 1991 18:489
    I tried implementing CMIP as a ROS application once, and found that
    there was remarkably little benefit in this approach.  Why?  Because
    the heart and soul of CMIP are the entity (managed object) instance,
    and the attribute/argument list.  None of these things can be described
    to ROS, because in an extensible director (or agent) we don't know
    what attributes exist until runtime.
    
    ben