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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

1252.0. "Accessing a remote Translan" by LISVAX::ANDRE () Tue Jul 16 1991 12:42

	Hello,

	I've installed successfully the Translan AM and I can manage the Bridge 
located in the same LAN as the one where the AM is located. However I can't add 
the remote bridge to MCC as it says to me that can not reach the device. I'm 
only allowing DECnet, LAT and MOPRC to pass through the link so I suppose I have 
to let pass some other protocols used by the access module.

	Can anyone tell what are those other protocols ?

	Thanks in advance,

	Miguel Andr�.
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1252.180-80TOOK::MCPHERSONi'm only 5 foot one...Tue Jul 16 1991 14:2112
re:  <<< Note 1252.0 by LISVAX::ANDRE >>>

The Vitalink Bridge Mgmt protocol type field is 80-80. 

The AM could also be timing out. 
	- What is the speed of the link to the remote Translan? 
	- Is it <56kb?  
	- Is it a busy link?

/doug


1252.2very busy line indeedLISVAX::ANDREWed Jul 17 1991 10:3417
	Hello,

	Thank you for your quick answer. The line has a 64K speed but is a very 
busy line. On the other hand I think that the protocol type 8080 is 
automatically passed as the Translan does not allow me to add it to the filter 
type.

	Finally I will give you the right message I get from MCC:

	COMMUNICATION WITH THE TARGET HAS BEEN INTERRUPTED


	Is there any workaround to this problem ???

	Thanks,

	Miguel Andr�.
1252.3ALLZS::MORRISONThe world is a networkWed Jul 17 1991 10:4511
> COMMUNICATION WITH THE TARGET HAS BEEN INTERRUPTED

If I remember correctly, this means that a multi-part request/response
exchange was in progress, and one of the expected responses (not the first)
timed out.  I suspect you're having delay problems across the link,
especially since you indicate it's a busy line.  You probably hit a burst
of traffic that delayed the response beyond the timeout limit.  Does this
happen consistently, or just occasionaly?

						Wayne

1252.4IT'S CONSISTENTLISVAX::ANDREFri Jul 19 1991 14:338
	Hello,

	Yes I'm afraid the problem is always happening. I tried to register the 
bridge after working hours but the result is the same.

	Bye,

	Miguel Andr�.
1252.5Happens on .5Mb links as well SEDSWS::BAKERPaul Baker, UK Product and Technology Group - 844 3311Mon Jul 22 1991 07:3311
I've seen the same problem as .2 (ie COMMUNICATION WITH THE TARGET HAS BEEN 
INTERRUPTED) message on 0.5Mb links running only lat in the middle of the night.

When this happens while polling the Translan as part of an alarm rule, of course
the alarm rule fires when, in fact, there isn't a 'real' problem.

Hope this additional info helps...

Paul.

1252.6Help us narrow down the problem.MCDOUG::MCPHERSONi&#039;m only 5 foot one...Mon Jul 22 1991 14:1821
Ok, I am stumped so far, but you'll need to get more detailed information to
help narrow down the problem.   Back to some basic questions:
	
- What is the "vintage" of the Translan AM that you're using?  
    $ ANALYZE/IMAGE/HEADR/OUT=TEMP.LIS SYS$LIBRARY:MCC_TRANSLAN_AM.EXE
    $ SEA TEMP.LIS DATE

- What type of Translan Bridge is it?

- What version of software is running on the Translan?

- Is this the only remote Translan you have to test against? If not please try
  it on another one and let us know the results?

- Have you tried REGISTERing any ethernet devices on the other side of
  the Translan Link (esp STATIONS and Bridges)

- Try registering the Translan as a STATION and let us know what happens.

/doug