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Conference azur::mcc

Title:	DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:	Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:	TAEC::BEROUD

Created:	Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:	Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	6497
Total number of notes:	27359

1225.0. "update from user land" by DUNDEE::CLEARY (A deviant having fun...") Wed Jul 10 1991 02:00

    This arrived from the comp.os.vms newsgroup (and a few others) in the
    last couple of days.  The first response to it was `what's DECmcc ?'. 
    Luckily it was followed by a resonable thumbnail sketch.  Pity about
    the MSU confusion, but I guess we did that to ourselves.
    
    -mark
    
Article: 40787
From: [email protected] (Bob Boyd)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.admin,comp.os.vms,comp.dcom.lans,comp.sys.dec
Subject: Call for Discussion of Newsgroup about DECmcc
Date: 9 Jul 91 13:27:53 GMT
Sender: [email protected]
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications
 
I've been corresponding with a number of people who have an interest in
DECmcc.  We would like to set up a news group for the purpose of discussing
DECmcc and issues around DECmcc in a public forum.
 
There is a good chance that we will want to set up a mail gateway so that
those who don't have easy access to news will be able to get onboard as well.
 
At the present time, DECmcc is primarily used in relation to network management
but is being extended to cover the entire system management/network mgt
domain.  If DEC succeeds with their plans to extend the platform to run
on non-DEC hardware the scope will go beyond VMS and Ultrix and DECnet
 -- in fact this is already happening with the introduction of the 
DECmcc MSU package.
 
Suggestions have been made for a newsgroup name:
 
vmsnet.networks.decmcc
 
vmsnet.management.decmcc
 
vmsnet.networks.management.decmcc
 
I've already gotten feedback that there are folks inside of DEC who are 
interested in participating in a news group about DECmcc.
 
What do you think about creating a newsgroup for this topic?  Other ideas
for the name for the newsgroup?  Your favorite from the suggestions so far?
 
There's a possibility that this could be the beginning of a new working
group in the DECUS Networks SIG.  If you're interested in the formation
of a working group related to DECmcc, please send me email.
 
Please post followups to VMSNET.ADMIN or email me directly at the address below.
-- 
                         | Disclaimer: (is it bedda dan dat claimer?)
Bob Boyd                 | My opinions are mine, mine, mine!  Horrors that
[email protected] | anyone would confuse them with those of Unisys
Unisys/EPA               | or the Environmental Protection Agency! No Way!

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1225.1	DECmcc will be running on Olivetti hardware	BSYBEE::EGOLF	John C. Egolf LKG2-2/T02 x226-7874	`Wed Jul 10 1991 08:27`	10
	re .0 >>domain. If DEC succeeds with their plans to extend the platform to run >>on non-DEC hardware the scope will go beyond VMS and Ultrix and DECnet Olivetti has signed up as an OEM and will be porting DECmcc to SVR4 and be running DECmcc on the 386 and 486 based PCs. Digital retains the rights to the SVR4 sources and will market DECmcc SVR4 on other vendor's hardware.
1225.2	(IP) Network Mapping Mailing List.	DUNDEE::CLEARY	A deviant having fun..."	`Wed Jul 24 1991 23:20`	112
	From: DECWRL::"[email protected]" "Bob Boyd" 25-JUL-1991 01:49:40.10 To: [email protected] CC: Subj: ANNOUNCE: Network Mapping List I don't know if any of you have seen this already elsewhere, thought it might be of interest to some of those on the list. It is to me, so I'm passing it along. Xref: rock comp.protocols.tcp-ip:3522 comp.protocols.iso:520 From: [email protected] (James Barr) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.protocols.iso Subject: ANNOUNCE: Network Mapping List Keywords: map, network Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: 24 Jul 91 08:09:54 GMT Sender: [email protected] (James Barr) Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands). Lines: 67 I apologise to those who may have seen this elsewhere, but there seems to be a fair bit of interest so I thought it best to announce it to a wider audience. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, this is an announcement of a new mailing list for discussing the issues involved in mapping and visualising computer networks. With the growth in complexity of computer networks, mapping is becoming more important as a visualisation technique and for finding anomalies. There are numerous commericial and public domain tools available but many have serious limitations and are often specific to a single group of protocols. RIPE (Reseau IP Europeen) has set up a working group for studying the problem, this mailing list is intended as a forum for wider discussions. To join, send mail to <[email protected]> to contribute send mail to <[email protected]> archives on mcsun.eu.net:~ftp/ripe/archives/ripe-map Some of the issues for discussion are listed here, Auto-discovery, automatically discovering the topology of computer networks. How can this be done, what standards need changing to do this efficiently. Automatic Layout, Automatically laying out (or untangling) maps so that they look good on in a window or on a piece of paper. Features, which feaures of existing tools are the best what else is wanted. Formats, in what format should maps be stored and how should they be distributed. Model, What database model should be used. Should it be concerned purely with the graphic represention or should it try to model the underlying networks. Different types of map suitable for different purposes, what are the catagories. Other Tools and Standards, how can existing tools and protocols be tied in with a mapping database. Symbols, Standard symbols for representing network entities. How should the status of such entities be drawn. Regards, James Barr -- James Barr ............... ...... +31 20-592-5104 ........... .......... [email protected] ...... .............. NIKHEF, Kruislaan 409, 1009DB Amsterdam .. .................. -- \| Disclaimer: (is it bedda dan dat claimer?) Bob Boyd \| My opinions are mine, mine, mine! Horrors that [email protected] \| anyone would confuse them with those of Unisys Unisys/EPA \| or the Environmental Protection Agency! No Way! % ====== Internet headers and postmarks (see DECWRL::GATEWAY.DOC) ====== Received: by enet-gw.pa.dec.com; id AA28797; Wed, 24 Jul 91 08:37:24 -0700 Received: by wanmgr.rtpnc.epa.gov (5.57/fty-EPA/RTP-12-17-90) id AA05492; Wed, 24 Jul 91 11:22:31 EDT Received: by wanmgr.rtpnc.epa.gov (5.57/fty-EPA/RTP-12-17-90) id AA05488; Wed, 24 Jul 91 11:22:29 EDT Received: from ralph.rtpnc.epa.gov by sunvis.rtpnc.epa.gov (5.59/fty-EPA/RTP-12-17-90) id AA02149; Wed, 24 Jul 91 11:21:44 EDT Received: by ralph via UUCP (5.52/890607.SGI) (for [email protected]) id AA08334; Tue, 24 Jul 90 11:21:06 EDT Date: Tue, 24 Jul 90 11:21:06 EDT From: [email protected] (Bob Boyd) Message-Id: <9007241521.AA08334@ralph> To: [email protected] Subject: ANNOUNCE: Network Mapping List Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.protocols.iso Organization: UNISYS/Environmental Protection Agency

Conference azur::mcc

1225.0. "update from user land" by DUNDEE::CLEARY (A deviant having fun...&quot;) Wed Jul 10 1991 02:00

1225.0. "update from user land" by DUNDEE::CLEARY (A deviant having fun...") Wed Jul 10 1991 02:00