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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

1222.0. "problems with register" by CLARID::HOFSTEE (Take a RISC, buy a VAX) Mon Jul 08 1991 13:14

I am trying to register a node4 (rather basic isn't it) and keep getting the
message 'entity unknown'. After having struggled through DNS namespace,
clearinghouse, access control, local decnet database , manuals etc. etc. I
haven't been able to figure out what's wrong.

A logfile follows:

Thanks a lot

Timo

$ mc dns$control

DNS> 

)0
=

DNS> 

DNS> 

DNS> show dir . known child
 Child ______ 
D
N
A
_
N
o
d
e
 Child ______ 
D
N
A
_
N
o
d
e
S
y
n
o
n
y
m


DNS> 

DNS> sh access dir .dna_node

 Entry ______ 63612::SYSTEM _ (DSP_NS:.DNS$IV.63612.SYSTEM)
  Flags _____
 NOPROPAGATE
  Rights ____
 READ
 WRITE
 DELETE
 TEST
 CONTROL

 Entry ______ NMOS01::DNS$SERVER _ (DSP_NS:.DNS$IV.NMOS01.DNS$SERVER)
  Flags _____
 NOPROPAGATE
  Rights ____
 READ
 WRITE
 DELETE
 TEST
 CONTROL

 Entry ______ DSP_NS:.dsp_ch
  Flags _____
 NOPROPAGATE
  Rights ____
 READ
 WRITE
 DELETE
 TEST
 CONTROL

 Entry ______ *::* _ (DSP_NS:.DNS$IV.*.*)
  Flags _____
 PROPAGATE
  Rights ____
 READ
 WRITE
 DELETE
 TEST
 CONTROL

 Entry ______ *::* _ (DSP_NS:.DNS$IV.*.*)
  Flags _____
 DEFAULT
 PROPAGATE
  Rights ____
 READ
 WRITE
 DELETE
 TEST
 CONTROL

 Entry ______ DSP_NS:.dna_registrar
  Flags _____
 PROPAGATE
 GROUP
  Rights ____
 READ
 WRITE
 DELETE
 TEST
 CONTROL

 Entry ______ DSP_NS:.dna_registrar
  Flags _____
 DEFAULT
 PROPAGATE
 GROUP
  Rights ____
 READ
 WRITE
 DELETE
 TEST
 CONTROL


DNS> 

DNS> exi
>
$ manag/enter

DECmcc (V1.1.0)


)0
=
>

)0
=
>

MCC> show node chic 

Using default ALL IDENTIFIERS


Node DSP_NS:.chic 

AT  8-JUL-1991 12:28:14 Identifiers


Connection rejected because of Protocol Version Skew, could be a Phase IV Node

MCC> show node4 chic

Using default ALL IDENTIFIERS


Node4 51.117 

AT  8-JUL-1991 12:29:40 Identifiers


Examination of Attributes shows:

                                Address = 
51.117


                                   Name = 
CHIC


MCC> register node4 .dna_node.chic synonym chic


Node4 DSP_NS:.dna_node.chic 

AT  8-JUL-1991 12:30:09 


The requested operation cannot be completed

                      MCC Routine Error = 
%MCC-W-ENTUNKNOWN, unknown entity: !AD


MCC> exi

T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name
DateLines
1222.1DNS DIrectories are missingNSSG::R_SPENCENets don't fail me now...Mon Jul 08 1991 14:547
    You do not seem to have all the needed DNS directories.
    
    Have you run the DNS Setup tool? At the very least, the
    DNA_BACKTRANSLATION... directories must be added before a phase IV
    node can be registered.
    
    s/rob
1222.2some more infoCLARID::HOFSTEETake a RISC, buy a VAXWed Jul 10 1991 05:3555


Right, we are now three days later, and I am still unable to register one
single node!

I checked, rechecked and double checked everything , and everything seems to
be according to the manual, but I am still getting 'entity unknown'.

I have installed (SBB) MCC V1.1 and DNS 1.1. Than I ran the MCC_DNS_SETUP
file.

All subdirectories 

.dna_backtranslation
.dna_backtranslation.%X49
.dna_backtranslation.%X49.%X001
.
.
.mcc
.
.
etc,

are there, as mentioned in the manual.

Then I (re)enrolled the modules with MCC_ENROLL_DIR and MCC_ENROLL_BMS.

When I asked for the known entities through the FORMS interface, it says

 NODE *
    MCC *
    DOMAIN *
    BRIDGE *
    STATION *
    NODE4 *
    SAMPLE *
     
Now when I execute a register command, I still get

$   MANAGE/ENTERPRISE
DECmcc (V1.1.0)

MCC>  REGISTER NODE4 dsp_ns:.dna_node.CHIC   SYNONYM=CHIC   !IDP=49:: ADDRESS=51
.

Node4 DSP_NS:.dna_node.CHIC
AT 10-JUL-1991 04:59:04

The requested operation cannot be completed
                      MCC Routine Error = %MCC-W-ENTUNKNOWN, unknown entity: !AD

Any help would be highly appreciated


1222.3DNS entries strangly disappearingCLARID::HOFSTEETake a RISC, buy a VAXWed Jul 10 1991 09:3725
After having traced down some things, I think I might have located the area
where the problem arises, but I haven't the slightest idea what's causing it.
These are the symptoms:

I opened up two windows on my workstation. Then , in one window I did:

@MC dns$control show dir .dna_backtranslation.%x49 known child

I saw that not all entries from %x001 till %X003f were there, so I 
(re)executed in the other window, the mcc_dns_setup option 1. Now while 
this commadfile was executing, I repeated the command above and saw indeed
all entries reappear.

So on a certain moment, the commandfile is finished, and a 
'show dir .dna_backtranslation.%x49 kn child' gives entries %x0001 till
%x003f. Then I exit from DNS, and immediately restart it . When I than
repeat the same command, part of the entries have disappeared!!!!
When I repeat this scenario (reexecute the commandfile which again recreates
the missing entries), the same things happens, but every time other entries
(it looks rather arbitrary) have disappeared. So I guess that my previous
requests can be reduced to: How do I recreate a complete proper DNS namespace
that stays stable and does not change as soon as I exit from DNS??

Thanks
1222.4NSSG::R_SPENCENets don't fail me now...Wed Jul 10 1991 10:5610
    Are all time setting correct?
    
    VMS Time
    MCC_TDF
    DNS$TDF
    
    Are there any more clearinghouses in the namespace?
    Are both the DNS$BACK and DNS$TA processes up?
    
    s/rob