Conference azur::mcc

	We are showing DECmcc on MIPS Ultrix in  Munich  Germany  right
	now to the OSF code evaluation team.

	Field test of  DECmcc  will  probably  be  in  3 weeks.  We are
	slightly behind were we would like to be, but the effort to win
	OSF was needed and it took away from the product time.

	The Ultrix version of DECmcc  will be both Vax and RISC.  There
	may be a week gap in  the  release for FT if it helps get a kit
	out earlier.

	JCE

Hi,

Will it be possible to run MSU and Ultrix MCC on the same workstation at the 
same time?

Ian

> Will it be possible to run MSU and Ultrix MCC on the same workstation at
> the same time?

Good question.  Part of it depends on whether MSU uses the ULTRIX Data Link
Interface (DLI) routines.  DECmcc does for the Ethernet & Bridge AMs, and
from what I know about MSU (not much, admittedly), there could be some
potential protocol overlap there.  Perhaps Will McGrath can answer for MSU.
In any case, it's something that should be tested once the ULTRIX version
of DECmcc is stable, so that we KNOW the answer.

						Wayne

    MSU uses well-known sockets.  The user defines unique well-known
    sockets for nmsregd and nmsalarmd.  I believe the polling daemons use
    the UDP socket directly.   
    
    MSU, like MCC, uses SQL.  All MSU tables are stored in the MSU db, and
    shouldn't conflict with MCC -- but there may be some tweaking needed
    for number of communication servers started, etc...  Nothing that seems
    like it should conflict.
    
    In short, though no interoperability testing has been done, I can't see
    any major conflicts.  We have both up on a uVAXII here, so maybe there's 
    some unplanned confirmation that there shouldn't be any problems.  But
    it is something that should (will?) be tested.
    
    -Will-
    
    

     For the internal field test update, which is DECmcc 1.1 functionality,
     on Ultrix, available now, (RE: note 3.82), is this available on
     VMS Ultrix or RISC Ultrix.  And...are both going to be supported for
     the 1.2 Release?

     I assume if we use VAX stations connected to a VAX Ultrix server, for
     development, this is an impossible configuration if the MCC PM only
     supports RISC!

		thanks,
				Bonnie 

re: .5
	Bonnie,

	As mentioned in .1, DECmcc for Ultrix will be supported on both 
	VAX and RISC Ultrix. The reasons for pre-release/demonstrations 
	on RISC is because of equipment availability and fewer integration
	problems. These integration issues are being addressed as they arise.
	
	Stay tuned...

	Tom Dougherty -- DECmcc Ultrix 

Just intersted in more feedback. Management has asked around a bit and
we were told that ultrix/vax was not a top priority item (read that as
we got almost no interest expressed for it). Does this reflect what 
others see in the field today?

Jill,

    I am working on R/CMP development. We are addressing the system
management needs of the heterogeneous data center. We need support of
the DECmcc Director on ULTRIX/VAX and ULTRIX/RISC  as well as SUN :-).

    Maybe RISC has market share and slightly more priority should
be placed on that. However, we cannot abandon our customers who have
made an investment with ULTRIX/VAX.

-John

I requested from management an update on the "official" word, the following
is what I got:

	There will be no VAX/ULTRIX kit.
	We have gotten customer feedback that lead us to believe
	there is little or no demand for it. If however, it can
	be dhown that there is a significant opportunity lost
	because of this decision, it could be reconsidered.

Hope this helps with your planning.