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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

904.0. "Alarms like Armeda???" by SUBWAY::AMMU () Wed Apr 10 1991 23:11

    
    I think we try to set the ALARMS , dont rememember PIPELINE quota
    or MAXIMUM ADDRESS. Most probably maximum address. In the middle of
    my demo to customer, it started displaying 
    
    	"Sceduled time has elapsed for this alarm" or some thing like
    that. 
    
    	It did not let me disable the alarm. The node was red. I tried 
    to go into a bridge or router. Every where the above message comesup.
    I tried to disable alarm. It said active alarms cannot be disabled.
    
    	In otherwords , if an alarm is active , it is not letting me
    look into some thing else. I have a feeling the Xevent loop is not
    flushing the specific event (scheduled time elapsed???) . As soon
    as I can reprouduce the problem , I will post it here. 
    
    	I appreciate any ideas on this.
    
    
    		... subway::ammu
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904.1more info pleaseTOOK::HAOThu Apr 11 1991 10:458
    Yes, please add more info on this.  
    
    Are you trying to delete or disable the alarm?  I believe you would
    get the "cannot delete active alarm" message if you tried to delete
    an alarm that is currently enabled.  It has to be disabled first.
    
    Christine
904.2NSSG::R_SPENCENets don't fail me now...Thu Apr 11 1991 11:048
    Also, if you have more than one map window up that contains part of the
    heirarchy that has the entity that alarmed, then when you clear the
    alarm in one window, the color remains in the other windows with no way
    to clear it. In this case I think that "Clear Alarms" is a misnomer
    since there really isn't any alarm to clear, only a notification to
    clear.
    
    s/rob
904.3Good point...DFLAT::PLOUFFEJerryThu Apr 11 1991 15:2014
RE: -.1

  Rob:

    Exactly!  The notification is what is being manipulated, not the alarm or
    alarm rule (rule).  The rule's state is not "cleared".  Its state is still 
    enabled.  The severity of the next alarm to be generated by MCC Alarms for
    the same rule may become "clear" (a v1.2 feature for threshold rules, I 
    believe), but that is not the same thing at all.

    I agree that notification services should not confuse the two concepts or
    our users.

                                                                   - Jerry
904.4bug fixedTOOK::HAOFri Apr 12 1991 09:5414
    re .2
    
    That's correct.  It's purely a PM functionality to reset an icon's
    color.  The rule is still enabled, and the problem may still exist.
    By the way, the menu item is "Reset Alarm" not "Clear Alarm" anymore.
    I believe it was only in V1.1 IFT kit that it was Clear Alarm.  This
    was done for the reason that Jerry mentioned.  There would be a clear
    severity from Alarms FM to indicate that the alarm really was cleared.
    
    By the way, the fact that icons only get reset in one window is a bug
    that is fixed in V1.2.
    
    Christine
904.5more info SUBWAY::AMMUThu Apr 18 1991 13:5637
    
    Hai, I tried at our site , to reproduce the problem. I could not.
    However I do have a tk50, of all the log files, ie. set host/log etc.
    But set host /log may not give you the mcc iconic map stuff. I do
    have DECW$LOGs also. I dont know if that gives the sequence of
    activity. If needed I can put the tk50 stuff on the net. 
    
    	However my point is , whether I have alarms enabled, disabled etc,
    	it should not interfere with my other activity on the map. Like
    	when I tried to look at node2 , when node1 has alarm fired on it, 
        it should come back and tell me "scheduled time passed " etc.
    
    	To give you more details, the setup, they bought EMS 2.0, I
    installed BMS 1.1 on top of BMS 1.0 which is part of EMS 2.0. The
    configuration (DOMAINS) is 
    [US]->[NY]
    	   |
    	   V
    |----------------|
    75 WALLST	222 BROADWAY
     |
    ------------
    |           |
    HOSTS      TCP
    |            |
    ----------   ----------
    |         |            |
    IVNODE1   IVNODE2      WELLFLEET BRIDGE
    
    ONLY node1, node2 and wellfleet bridge are the entities. All other are
    domains. The IVNODE1 is red. I am playing with WELLFLEET BRIDGE, when I 
    got the message on SCHEDULED time passed. I tried some other TCP/IP
    node
    which is DECSTATION , under tcp domain, same response. 
    I hope this helps.
    ammu